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  1. #21
    Player Vandheer's Avatar
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    Not so sure if Skillchaining with our pets would be better then having 2 pets at once. Yes Skillchaining with our pets would be a great addition but not in replacement to possibly calling up 2 pets. Skillchaining with our pets shouldn't require Guttler or any of these hard to obtain weapons it should just be part of Beastmaster.
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    ~ BST 99, SAM 96, DRG 96, BLU 91, THF 90 ~
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    Player Leonardus's Avatar
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    Guttler should share the Aftermath with the pet.
    And a crazy thought:

    Enchantment: Calls Kyo or Pya
    <1/1 0:30/[20:00:00, 0:30]>

    I'm not sure if the game details Guttler's relationship with Lhu Mhakaracca enough, though.
    I'd say it would make sense that her rocs survive to present day Vana'Diel, somewhere out there, and that Guttler being wielded out on the field once more would attract them (For a brief powerful attack or buff, at least).
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    Bump;

    why did this thread die? SE may we have a response to these great ideas, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthar View Post
    Bump;

    why did this thread die? SE may we have a response to these great ideas, please?
    yes please
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    Should add that Onslaught is actually a fairly strong ws now at 119. Pretty close to 1/5 ruinator think it's about high time we fix relic aftermath durations. Empyrean are litterally 50% longer and mythic is 2-3 times as long. A big thing that would help bring guttler (and some others) back is actually being able to really utilitze it's relic ws. Which would involve overalling durations and fixing the crappy ws/aftermaths

    Edit: Also math aftermaths apply to pets!!! And have ya know actual pet stats on a bst only axe <.<
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    Last edited by dasva; 03-17-2014 at 05:50 AM.

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    Player dasva's Avatar
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    And now the new delve axe completely destroys guttler for bst lol. Same ilvl for calling pets, 11 more base dmg though 8 more delay, same skill and such but in lieu of the hidden stuff you get actual pet stats and decent ones at that.
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    Player Leonardus's Avatar
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    I found that 164 DMG Emxgha.

    Still keeping Guttler, however. I just love to Onslaught things, among its other nice traits.
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    Having afterglow'ed Guttler, I would also like to see longer relic aftermath and make it apply to PETS!
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