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    Player Lisotte's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kysaiana View Post
    The reason you wouldn't see 2 geodes in an abyssea ally is because the drop rate on day is abysmal. I attempted to farm flame geodes last night during firesday and got 0. There was a tiny window where wind weather showed up during firesday and the first mob I killed during it dropped a breeze geode... was kinda sad but whatever, breeze geodes still go for a bit on siren. If SE is unwilling to make fire weather more common, it would be nice if the drop rate during days wasn't so bad that you completely waste about an hour trying.

    That's just it. It's 100% a waste of time to bother farming it EVER, because you know that at most you might get 1 in an hour. In 1 hour I can make way more than the 80k gil required to pay for a flame geode.

    Problem is that there's always so few on AH (partially thanks to them goldsmiths as well), as no one ever can farm for it; just if someone happens to pick one up on the rare occasion when that happens, it makes sense to put it on the AH for some free money. Also for the sake of the flame geode starved community.
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    Kill faster. I bet I can get 6 an hour lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Kill faster. I bet I can get 6 an hour lol.
    Again, how does changing it negatively impact you in any way? Until someone answers that question, none of the people arguing against it have anything remotely resembling a valid point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    Again, how does changing it negatively impact you in any way? Until someone answers that question, none of the people arguing against it have anything remotely resembling a valid point.
    Because people could actually enjoy having something somewhat good while they play the game >:O what worse crime against humanity could you possibly commit!?
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    Last edited by Demon6324236; 08-27-2012 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Kill faster. I bet I can get 6 an hour lol.
    Show us, then.

    Record a video of an hours of firesday killing so we can see how many you get from your awesome, speedy killing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Kill faster. I bet I can get 6 an hour lol.
    Was that supposed to be a good number? I'm assuming you're talking about fire weather (because on fire day that'd be completely impossible; you're lucky to get 1-2). Giving aside the problem that it's practically impossible to count on there BEING fire weather, we're looking at you coincidentally seeing that fire weather is forecasted, you get to your farm spot ahead of time, start on time, the weather lasts all day.

    After all that you manage to get 6 geodes. I'm highly skeptical that this would ever happen, but let's say you do. Alright; now try and go do this again some point in the near future (you won't). Why? Because this kind of chance is very rare. Also keep in mind you've gotten 6 out of 55 geodes; you've barely put a dent in it.

    What's the point of getting 6 geodes? It's much simpler to farm the equivalent cost of them out of dyna or in cruor farming.


    More on the positive side, I got up to the final flame geode trial, I've currently got 20/40 geodes, and 15/15 ifirites! Fire str h2h, here I come (in a day or two).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    What's the point of getting 6 geodes? It's much simpler to farm the equivalent cost of them out of dyna or in cruor farming.
    People please stop saying this. There is no supply to buy if no one farms the things, so you can do your cruor farming and your dyna farming but you will get nothing so long as no one else is picking them up for you!

    Sorry if I took this out of context but honestly this attitude is annoying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    People please stop saying this. There is no supply to buy if no one farms the things, so you can do your cruor farming and your dyna farming but you will get nothing so long as no one else is picking them up for you!

    Sorry if I took this out of context but honestly this attitude is annoying!
    Sorry; I'm a full-time college student with a part-time job, with a number of other real-life responsibilities. I don't have the time to play whenever there's fire weather, or be on every fireday.

    What I can do is do what I can when I have time; dyna happens to be something I can do whenever I have 2 hours free, once a day. Cruor farming is something I can do when I have a couple hours free otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Sorry; I'm a full-time college student with a part-time job, with a number of other real-life responsibilities. I don't have the time to play whenever there's fire weather, or be on every fireday.

    What I can do is do what I can when I have time; dyna happens to be something I can do whenever I have 2 hours free, once a day. Cruor farming is something I can do when I have a couple hours free otherwise.
    I think what he's saying is that if everyone simply farmed up the gil for geodes rather than farming geodes directly, there would never be any geodes available. Yes, right now it's a huge waste of time to try and farm for geodes directly as they simply aren't going to drop in any meaningful number. The point is, it shouldn't be that way.

    Flame geodes should realistically and reasonably be farmable by anyone and everyone without having to spend a single gil other than for travel and normal expenses. If people want to buy them that option should be available, but not a virtual necessity.

    Instead they're treated like a lite version of relic, mythic, or empy items. That's just really stupid and highly unbalanced. These are weapons for everyone. I'm not saying they should be obtainable without effort, but that effort shouldn't be comparable to a legendary class weapon. If these outdo legendary weapons then someone should be pushing for those weapons and/or their weapon skills to be improved.
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    -it's much simpler to farm gils but if nobody farm geodes nobody put em at AH and nobody can buy em no matter how many million gils they have
    -it's not because you can't do it that nobody can or should do it

    solutions:
    - more fire weather (maybe on adoulin, best if "geode onry" lvl monster)
    - remove gem from geode desynth (and i don't care if gem become harder to get, 10* more expensive...)
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