The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[Fupafighter]

Your comparisons hold no water at all. Armageddon is simply the best weapon for cor, there is no other gun that even begins to compare with it. With it being so easy to build, there is never any reason to build another magian gun. Armageddon for cor has the same utility as Ukon for war. On the other hand, farsha for bst has one of the most annoying nm paths with fistule (an nm that cannot be spammed because of the nature of its spawn condition) and bukhis. According to your logic, farsha should be bloody spectacular, but instead its total ass. I really don't care about this flame geode arguments, I just wanted to point out your reasoning concerning better weapons being correlated with more difficult paths is not true at all.

Lol you can solo fistule on bst.... Can get all 50 in a day. So your argument is invalid. When you compare the upgrade armageddon gives compared to Ukon, you will see that Ukon is outstanding. Atleast with cor, you can do well with last stand if you don't have armageddon. Without Ukon, warrior is basically garbage. For F's sake, you can kill the yellow custard and hold the other NM until fistule spawns and you really won't have competition either for fistule. Does anyone here know anything about how to kill efficiently lol?

[Aldersyde]

Lol you can solo fistule on bst.... Can get all 50 in a day. So your argument is invalid. When you compare the upgrade armageddon gives compared to Ukon, you will see that Ukon is outstanding. Atleast with cor, you can do well with last stand if you don't have armageddon. Without Ukon, warrior is basically garbage. For F's sake, you can kill the yellow custard and hold the other NM until fistule spawns and you really won't have competition either for fistule. Does anyone here know anything about how to kill efficiently lol?

You can get 50 of any upgrade item in one day if you're determined enough. What's your point? Abyssea is Abyssea, nothing is hard so to speak any more. Fistule is a far bigger cockblock nm than any of the others, however, that's why it's a more annoying path. Fistule is on a 15 to 20 min timer, which means it will pop 3-4 times an hour if the player or the competition is killing reasonably fast. That's 3-8 fistule discharges per hour, per server. Other nms, including glavoid, have a far greater potential per sever to yield more upgrade items per hour depending on the efficiency of the players in the zone as there's 3 ??? and you can pop them whenever. Competition slows down your progress far more than on other paths because of the timed pop condition. So, if you lose a pop, you and your friends get to stand around with your thumbs of your asses while waiting for the next fistule. There is no 'efficiently' killing fistule. You're always constrained by the timed pop condition. That's why it's more 'difficult', which is to say it's annoying.

I noticed you only looked at half the farsha path as well and didn't even consider Bukhis, which to put it mildly, is a cocksucker, and cannot be soloed on bst (unless Xilk finally succeed in doing so). I've seen shouts in PJ that went on for hours in which people wanted help with Bukhis. No, he's not 'hard' but he wastes a lot of peoples' time, just because of his full dispel move (which includes atmas) that makes multiple people trudge back to the atma infuser after every fight.

So ya, you're still wrong (surprise, surprise). There's no correlation between 'difficult' paths and awesome weapons (see also dagger and polearm).

No one's being lazy about flame geodes. If they were, they wouldn't being asking for more consistent weather so they could go farm them themselves. That doesn't exactly scream laziness.

[Fupafighter]

You can get 50 of any upgrade item in one day if you're determined enough. What's your point? Abyssea is Abyssea, nothing is hard so to speak any more. Fistule is a far bigger cockblock nm than any of the others, however, that's why it's a more annoying path. Fistule is on a 15 to 20 min timer, which means it will pop 3-4 times an hour if the player or the competition is killing reasonably fast. That's 3-8 fistule discharges per hour, per server. Other nms, including glavoid, have a far greater potential per sever to yield more upgrade items per hour depending on the efficiency of the players in the zone as there's 3 ??? and you can pop them whenever. Competition slows down your progress far more than on other paths because of the timed pop condition. So, if you lose a pop, you and your friends get to stand around with your thumbs of your asses while waiting for the next fistule. There is no 'efficiently' killing fistule. You're always constrained by the timed pop condition. That's why it's more 'difficult', which is to say it's annoying.

I noticed you only looked at half the farsha path as well and didn't even consider Bukhis, which to put it mildly, is a cocksucker, and cannot be soloed on bst (unless Xilk finally succeed in doing so). I've seen shouts in PJ that went on for hours in which people wanted help with Bukhis. No, he's not 'hard' but he wastes a lot of peoples' time, just because of his full dispel move (which includes atmas) that makes multiple people trudge back to the atma infuser after every fight.

So ya, you're still wrong (surprise, surprise). There's no correlation between 'difficult' paths and awesome weapons (see also dagger and polearm).

No one's being lazy about flame geodes. If they were, they wouldn't being asking for more consistent weather so they could go farm them themselves. That doesn't exactly scream laziness.

Dude. Whm and thf can duo bukhis no problem if you don't suck complete ballsack. The key items are easily farmed out of gold chest if needed too. Want some advice? Keep 3 shadows up.

[Demon6324236]

Dude. Whm and thf can duo bukhis no problem if you don't suck complete ballsack. The key items are easily farmed out of gold chest if needed too. Want some advice? Keep 3 shadows up.

Dude. Rdm and thf can duo glavoid no problem if you don't suck complete ballsack. The key items are easily farmed out of gold chest if needed too. Want some advice? Stun Disgorge

No really though. No Abyssea things are really that hard, Glav & Chloris are easy, they are just time taking because of KIs. Guess what else is easy and time taking? Flame weapons. No one is saying they are hard to make, people are saying that Fire Weather and the obtainment of Flame Geodes are unbalanced due to weather problems and supposedly drop rates on them.

[FrankReynolds]

Dude. Rdm and thf can duo glavoid no problem if you don't suck complete ballsack. The key items are easily farmed out of gold chest if needed too. Want some advice? Stun Disgorge

No really though. No Abyssea things are really that hard, Glav & Chloris are easy, they are just time taking because of KIs. Guess what else is easy and time taking? Flame weapons. No one is saying they are hard to make, people are saying that Fire Weather and the obtainment of Flame Geodes are unbalanced due to weather problems and supposedly drop rates on them.

I think he's just really hoping for someone to go off on him and start cursing and posting memes.