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  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    People please stop saying this. There is no supply to buy if no one farms the things, so you can do your cruor farming and your dyna farming but you will get nothing so long as no one else is picking them up for you!

    Sorry if I took this out of context but honestly this attitude is annoying!
    Sorry; I'm a full-time college student with a part-time job, with a number of other real-life responsibilities. I don't have the time to play whenever there's fire weather, or be on every fireday.

    What I can do is do what I can when I have time; dyna happens to be something I can do whenever I have 2 hours free, once a day. Cruor farming is something I can do when I have a couple hours free otherwise.
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  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Sorry; I'm a full-time college student with a part-time job, with a number of other real-life responsibilities. I don't have the time to play whenever there's fire weather, or be on every fireday.

    What I can do is do what I can when I have time; dyna happens to be something I can do whenever I have 2 hours free, once a day. Cruor farming is something I can do when I have a couple hours free otherwise.
    I think what he's saying is that if everyone simply farmed up the gil for geodes rather than farming geodes directly, there would never be any geodes available. Yes, right now it's a huge waste of time to try and farm for geodes directly as they simply aren't going to drop in any meaningful number. The point is, it shouldn't be that way.

    Flame geodes should realistically and reasonably be farmable by anyone and everyone without having to spend a single gil other than for travel and normal expenses. If people want to buy them that option should be available, but not a virtual necessity.

    Instead they're treated like a lite version of relic, mythic, or empy items. That's just really stupid and highly unbalanced. These are weapons for everyone. I'm not saying they should be obtainable without effort, but that effort shouldn't be comparable to a legendary class weapon. If these outdo legendary weapons then someone should be pushing for those weapons and/or their weapon skills to be improved.
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    -it's much simpler to farm gils but if nobody farm geodes nobody put em at AH and nobody can buy em no matter how many million gils they have
    -it's not because you can't do it that nobody can or should do it

    solutions:
    - more fire weather (maybe on adoulin, best if "geode onry" lvl monster)
    - remove gem from geode desynth (and i don't care if gem become harder to get, 10* more expensive...)
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  4. #234
    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    solutions:
    - more fire weather (maybe on adoulin, best if "geode onry" lvl monster)
    Yeah, I hope they're smart enough to add fire weather to Adoulin since they seem highly reluctant to adjust older zones. We have entirely new zones here, so there's really no excuse for them to not add something with lots of heat waves. Not a good excuse anyway.
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  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Was that supposed to be a good number? I'm assuming you're talking about fire weather (because on fire day that'd be completely impossible; you're lucky to get 1-2). Giving aside the problem that it's practically impossible to count on there BEING fire weather, we're looking at you coincidentally seeing that fire weather is forecasted, you get to your farm spot ahead of time, start on time, the weather lasts all day.

    After all that you manage to get 6 geodes. I'm highly skeptical that this would ever happen, but let's say you do. Alright; now try and go do this again some point in the near future (you won't). Why? Because this kind of chance is very rare. Also keep in mind you've gotten 6 out of 55 geodes; you've barely put a dent in it.

    What's the point of getting 6 geodes? It's much simpler to farm the equivalent cost of them out of dyna or in cruor farming.


    More on the positive side, I got up to the final flame geode trial, I've currently got 20/40 geodes, and 15/15 ifirites! Fire str h2h, here I come (in a day or two).
    Go to say wajaom woodlands on fire day and just wreck easy prey. Can 1 shot them over and over on basically any of my jobs. Assuming you have some form of luck, 6 is reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    I think what he's saying is that if everyone simply farmed up the gil for geodes rather than farming geodes directly, there would never be any geodes available. Yes, right now it's a huge waste of time to try and farm for geodes directly as they simply aren't going to drop in any meaningful number. The point is, it shouldn't be that way.

    Flame geodes should realistically and reasonably be farmable by anyone and everyone without having to spend a single gil other than for travel and normal expenses. If people want to buy them that option should be available, but not a virtual necessity.

    Instead they're treated like a lite version of relic, mythic, or empy items. That's just really stupid and highly unbalanced. These are weapons for everyone. I'm not saying they should be obtainable without effort, but that effort shouldn't be comparable to a legendary class weapon. If these outdo legendary weapons then someone should be pushing for those weapons and/or their weapon skills to be improved.
    Why do you get the say on what should only be bought and what should be farmed. There is no downside to adding more fire weather, but you are all just being lazy. Instead of farming the geodes, you're all asking for a solution that won't happen for probably 6+ months when it becomes irrelevant to you lol. Good job.
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Go to say wajaom woodlands on fire day and just wreck easy prey. Can 1 shot them over and over on basically any of my jobs. Assuming you have some form of luck, 6 is reasonable.
    You're not killing any of those those mobs in one swing. They have too much HP for that. Maybe you mean with a WS, but that's hardly the same thing as you describe. You gotta build TP somehow and you can't Meditate or Reverse Flourish that often. I would say you could one-shot them with a nuke, but you don't have the jobs for that. So no, you're not one-shotting these with any of your jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Why do you get the say on what should only be bought and what should be farmed.
    Why do you? I'm expressing an opinion on how I think things should work. What are you doing?
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    Last edited by Camiie; 08-28-2012 at 03:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Go to say wajaom woodlands on fire day and just wreck easy prey. Can 1 shot them over and over on basically any of my jobs. Assuming you have some form of luck, 6 is reasonable.
    Yeah, you're not one shotting anything in Wajaom Woodlands, and as soon as wind weather pops (which is very frequent in that zone) you are now getting breeze geodes, congratulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    I think what he's saying is that if everyone simply farmed up the gil for geodes rather than farming geodes directly, there would never be any geodes available.
    This is exactly what I meant, people seem to keep saying that you should just farm money & buy them, problem is if no one gets them to sell, you cant buy them no matter how full your pockets are.
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    Player Fupafighter's Avatar
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    The thing is there is a supply constantly in, every freakin 7 hours daily lol. And I wanna meet the guy that can kill lesser colibris in 1 swing too. Holy balls are any of you proper DDs? Can clear a zone of 20 mobs before any of them repop... Same can be said about any zone with easy preys. Wajaom was an example. Guys have fun dreaming for the stupidest things while the rest of us dream for things that actually matter and are actually an issue.
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