The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[hiko]

The problem isn't the weather, increasing the wether will not decrease the price of the geodes in the slightest. It might decrease the price of the pyrosoul rings a bit, but geodes will stay the same.
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lol,
more weather = a lot more supply.
more weather = people got more geodes while doing the kill trial = they need to buy less

The problem is the flame gems. Flame elment rings/earrings have always been 10 times more expensive than all the other elements, because that stat is actually useful, and the others are not/are less so.

don't care about flame ring/earrin price, people need a maximum of 2rings/2earings TOTAL, but 55 geode PER WEAPON
gem coming from geode is a problem because it increase demand of an item that is in too low supply


Quote Originally Posted by Louispv View Post

Asking for the Ifritites to be used instead is stupid. You'll have this exact same thread again a week after that change except with the avatarites instead of the geodes.
No.

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55 geodes per trial and 15 trites. I fail to see how trites will reach 100k per when almost four times less are needed. With trites near 1k people do not even put them on the AH.

[Fupafighter]

I was really just pointing out the glaringly obvious hypocrisy in his post. He wants his thing made easier while acting as though others are lazy for wanting the same. I think Alex requirements are impossibly stupid too. Don't get me wrong. I just don't see where it's so necessary to boost the circulation of them while ignoring the issues involving an item that far more players have use for.

It's not that I want it in supply more, it was the fact that I was trying to explain how you want one thing that you will probably never get. So many players want mythics to be made more obtainable, because in all reality, a years worth of farming for a small upgrade to their relic/empy counterparts is a little ridiculous, and SE has known this for years now. Yes years, as in 2 years. Asking them to change something that people can achieve in 2 days is just kinda pointless. Str magians are seriously really good. You should be using effort to get them. I personally would use 2x str dagger over my twashtar, because it's better. And the str daggers took less time to make. I'm sorry if you think I'm a hypocrite, or just plain stupid, but atleast I'm not being lazy asking for things that seriously don't need to adjusted so I can save some gil.

[Komori]

Magian weapons are just stat enhancers, none of them come with fancy weaponskills or additional effects, or aftermath. "Casual" people should be able to make magian weapons with no resistance because they don't want to put in the time or effort for a full fledged weapon. I built a STR sword; but I'm also on the helms stage for my Almace. But it's honestly less hassle to work on empy sword then it was the strength, for magian you are already reliant on weather or the day to progress, at least make the last part less of a grind so that farming up 25~50 Bria are easier than 55 geodes.

[Camiie]

It's not that I want it in supply more, it was the fact that I was trying to explain how you want one thing that you will probably never get. So many players want mythics to be made more obtainable, because in all reality, a years worth of farming for a small upgrade to their relic/empy counterparts is a little ridiculous, and SE has known this for years now. Yes years, as in 2 years.

Not that I like it either, but it's a bit more understandable for something like a Mythic to be ridiculous than an elemental magian weapon that's meant to be accessible to everyone.

Asking them to change something that people can achieve in 2 days is just kinda pointless.

Yeah, good luck killing all those trial mobs relying solely on Firesday due to the lack of weather and finding enough Geodes on the market over a 2-day weekend. On Fenrir right now there are 11 single flame geodes on the AH, 0 stacks, and 7 singles listed in bazaars. That's a wee bit short of 55.

Str magians are seriously really good. You should be using effort to get them.

Even if they made flame geodes as common as ice there would still be plenty of effort involved.

I personally would use 2x str dagger over my twashtar, because it's better.

Sounds like that's a problem with Twashtar then. You might want to push to get that fixed.

And the str daggers took less time to make.

First you say you would use them as though you don't yet have them, and now you say they took less time to make inferring that you have made them but don't use them even though they are superior. This is a bit confusing. Have you made them or not? If you have, why aren't you using them over your Twashtar if it'd be better?

I'm sorry if you think I'm a hypocrite, or just plain stupid, but atleast I'm not being lazy asking for things that seriously don't need to adjusted so I can save some gil.

No one here is doing that. As I showed you before, there aren't even enough geodes listed on my server to cover the trials of one person. There's something terribly wrong with the supply. The price can go up for all I care, but all the gil in the world can't buy you what simply isn't there.

[Fupafighter]

So you wait for more to come in to stock. I meant to say I would use str magians if I didn't like rudra's storm so much* Currently its twash/str. And yes, you can finish a trial in 2 days almost. I finished my 200-250 kill trials in 1 fire day each. Some I finished in half a fire day. This is just a little ridiculous. My server has 46 flame geodes in stock. Supply short? No. This is why the devs don't take the important things seriously. Like pld tanking and fixing embrava PD locking to kill content or NEED of 3rd part tools for neo nyzle. Because they're too busy reading over a thread about people wanting an item that has a decent stock to be made MORE easily available(available enough to finish in a day), along with easy magian trials for the weapon itself. Casual players shouldn't have a problem with this. I'd like to consider myself a casual player as I play 2-3 hours a day like 3-4x a week.

[Komori]

26 Single Flame Geodes, 1 stack. 79 in a bazaar but they're asking for 100k each on Bismarck. Do I REALLY need to pay 5.5mil when I could literally use that same amount to probably buy the majority of an empyrean weapon, depending on which?

[Luvbunny]

So basically their overall response is "we think it is fine as it is - and we are not changing it" aka: we don't give a crap about what you think or want as long as it is providing the necessary time sink to make sure players are grinding it days and night for a long time.

[Fupafighter]

If you're grinding day and night on a fire magian trial, you're doing it wrong. Wanna know how the majority of flame geodes show up? Through selling them on the auction house. Look at it like this. Do you think people doing 99 empies are farming all the plates themselves? No. Most of them are farming gil and buying from the people that don't want them. How about trying that with geodes?

[Hashmalum]

If you're grinding day and night on a fire magian trial, you're doing it wrong. Wanna know how the majority of flame geodes show up? Through selling them on the auction house. Look at it like this. Do you think people doing 99 empies are farming all the plates themselves? No. Most of them are farming gil and buying from the people that don't want them. How about trying that with geodes?

We already have three types of Trials of the Wallet type weapons. Why do we need yet another one?

[Camiie]

If you're grinding day and night on a fire magian trial, you're doing it wrong. Wanna know how the majority of flame geodes show up? Through selling them on the auction house.

They aren't showing up on the AH in any meaningful number! That's the problem. How dense can you be?

Look at it like this. Do you think people doing 99 empies are farming all the plates themselves? No. Most of them are farming gil and buying from the people that don't want them. How about trying that with geodes?

That's what people are doing and it's still not working.