Quote Originally Posted by Connavarr View Post
You totally ignored the fact that in those zones, weather other then fire is not only more common, but lasts longer as well. Also, I just did the manticore trial last week. Not one person, 7ish PM EST, was there for the manticores. Know where they were? Aby, where the mobs spawn faster, and you can kill them easier. Since you cannot rely on weather for these trials, OR farming geodes.

That is the point, which you, and so many others, have missed.
And you completely ignored that we are talking about kills by day only, and that IF you get non-flame weather and wind up with popular geodes (soil/breeze) you can sell them steadily to gather gil to help buy some flames--granted it may be roughly a 3:1 or 4:1 ratio, but it's better than leaving with nothing useful. You can also apply this approach later when you get thr0ugh the monster trials---pick a zone with a lower level mob and spam it for geodes, or farm somethign else for the gil if you want.

It all comes down to choice. You don't HAVE to go to Aby for the trials if your goal was to get your geodes as you go along--otherwise, you may well be looking at having to farm gil to buy your flames if you are in a rush to complete the weapon. It has been documented that Avatarites also drop from 80+ mobs and you can't get an avatarite and geode in the same cooldown window--it's one or the other, then it resets the timer. The player(s) opted to trade an expected focused geode drop rate for an expected faster kill rate, at the expense of a potentially higher Avatarite drop rate.

As for your example of the manticorfes, there's easily a dozen or so manticores arranged fairly close together in the Cape--and they are on a 5 minute repop. You can basically run around in a small loop, killing a group in rotation and they are repopping before you get back to the start of the loop, even solo--more so if you use your NPC. They go down fast, so it really isn't that much different from doing them in abyssea (at least in my experience--just over two game days to complete my manticore stages in the cape), and you would be focused on only geodes, and (depending on the season and such) you might get the opportunity to catch some fire weather cycles while you're at it.

The actual point was, there were alternatives that could have focused the drops on Geodes that could have been used effectively (potentially more effectively for geodes if weather pops), but the player(s) chose otherwise, then complained about the disparity in the avatarite/geode rewards with the chosen target.