The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[FrankReynolds]

I got 75 dragua scales in one night. Vere is clearly a shitty weapon. lol

[Nawesemo]

/double facepalm

[Fupafighter]

Same concept. Glavoid takes alot longer to farm than carabosse. Same can be said about itzpap. What I don't understand is how people have issues with this. I mean all the energy you have spend trying to bitch me out and make your point more clearer than I already see it, could have been invested in getting your weapons instead lol. Are you all not farming these because geodes are too hard, or are you just finding something to yell at SE for. They know you don't like this, but since it's already easily obtainable by 95% of the player base, it's a working system to them. You're better off dropping this whole concept of changing weather and just doing it and moving on. It's just pure laziness. I could probably sit down and go to every zone and farm certain things and find 5-10 things a day that are "unbalanced". This isn't "unbalanced". If anything, it worked out in SE's favor.

[Demon6324236]

I know hes trolling, I just hope that if SE is paying attention that they see what we are asking for, rather than what he is saying we are whining about. I mean, I think SE is a good company for alot they do in gaming, but I highly doubt that 10 years ago they were sitting around a table, and knew the time where Fire weather would be used for something very good, so in return they made all Fire weather rare. Its not like weather is new, its not like they could have predicted this when they made it, saying that its rare because of balance or anything of the sort is nothing short of a load of BS seeing as there is no way they planed for that. The best trials for the most part are Fire, but there are other good ones as well with extreme ease, such as Light, Dark, Ice, and Wind, all of which have their own areas that have near constant weather and easy to farm geodes.

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A:Same concept. Glavoid takes alot longer to farm than carabosse. Same can be said about itzpap.
B:What I don't understand is how people have issues with this. I mean all the energy you have spend trying to bitch me out and make your point more clearer than I already see it, could have been invested in getting your weapons instead lol.
C:Are you all not farming these because geodes are too hard, or are you just finding something to yell at SE for.
D:They know you don't like this, but since it's already easily obtainable by 95% of the player base, it's a working system to them. You're better off dropping this whole concept of changing weather and just doing it and moving on.
E:It's just pure laziness.
F:I could probably sit down and go to every zone and farm certain things and find 5-10 things a day that are "unbalanced". This isn't "unbalanced". If anything, it worked out in SE's favor.

A:Except as you point out, you can do Gold Chest farming, and guess what? Thats any time you please, Fire is not so lucky, Fire trials are based on either a once every 8 hour day, or a randomly occurring weather of which has a low rate when compared to other weathers in the same zones. During these times you have the same freedom as a player who is doing an Emp weapon.

B:I tend to post in this after Fireday because I do most of the time try to farm a couple here and there when possible.

C:This isn't hard, Ill say it again, not hard! It is simply much more limiting than other types of weapons due to weather.

D:We are better off giving feedback on the game we are playing in order to attain a more playable and enjoyable game. 95% of the playerbase is not able to obtain these weapons, or if able, many choose not to. You see, many players make Emp weapons due to their ease, those who have not the time or groups to do such a thing, make fire weapons. How many people really play this game though and are not able to obtain an Emp? From what I have seen, and know, there are not all to many who can not make an Emp, yet still make a Fire trial weapon.

The most common reason for the inability to make an Emp is lack of time, if this is the case, you are not easily going to plan around a 1 hour time period of a game, or want to spend what time you have waiting in an area for a weather to appear. Now if you have no group or linkshell, you may have the time and/or money to obtain the Geodes, and kills, and this lets you get a Fire weapon. However from my experience, most players who play alone, also dualbox to make up for the lack of others, and this allows for the making of Emps which most players seem to do, again leaving Fire weapons alone.

A short way to say it is Fire Weapons may be able to be made by alot of people, but alot of those people can also make better weapons, such as Emps or Relics, and often do not bother with Fire weapons due to this.

I cant help but think that since Mythics were a failed attempt to make a weapon group for more casual players, and Emps are still hard at times for casual players, that they would not take Fire, the least potent of them all, and make them easy enough to fit this category easy.

E:How is it lazy? Its not that people dont want to work for the weapon, its that people dont want to be so limited on when, or how, they can work to obtain them. I gave the list of areas with common weather, as I said, no place for Fire weather, that is a problem. Fire is the only path I can think of that I have seen people shout for a party during the day for it. Its also the only path I can think of I have never seen anyone camping an area for weather to do.

F:You probably could, but you know what? Most things like that are either for a quest that not many players do, or is not very rewarding, and thus not very noticed. This however is for trials, very relevant to the current game, very rewarding, and very often done by many players, as such it is noticed and it is brought up. Just because something works out in someones favor does not always mean its a good thing and should be kept.

[Nawesemo]

Wait, wait, wait..... Were complaining, but your complaining about our complaining, because our complaining is taking away from our empy farming, and that has..... Something (I'll admit I may be missing a key point) to do with flame geodes? And that irritated you enough to point out the obvious pink elephant that people can't farm 24/7 the things they like and are just lazy because of it? Do I got that right, awesome take this cookie, go sit in the corner like a good kid, ..... Geodes suck, flame especially.

[RAIST]

for those actually trying to farm them in weather.... It's window for increasing frequency just opened up. It will gradually increase frequency over the next couple days, then slowly slope off as the weekend ends and will once again be in the off-season cycles late Monday/early Tuesday.

3 sessions as expected today.... Earthday, and Watersday (current one), and it's in forecast again for Iceday. That's 3 forecasts in roughly a 4 hour window (5/2, 5/3, 5/5 in-game dates for this year's pattern).

In other words....these next 6 days are more or less the best time frame to be checking for fire weather if you haven't been tracking the specific dates it has been known to pop on and are just checking for it randomly when you log in the game.

[Fupafighter]

Hundreds of flame geodes go out daily. How in anyway is that unbalanced. Farming them solo is a hassle yes, but there are other options to get them.

[Demon6324236]

How in anyway is that unbalanced.

1.Fire-No Where
2.Earth-Mount Zhayolm/Altepa/Batallia
3.Water-Pashhow(Near Constant)/La Theine
4.Wind-Buburimu/Grauberg(Near Constant)
5.Ice-Beaucedine(Near Constant)/Xarcabard(Near Constant)/Uleguerand(Near Constant)
6.Thunder-Qufim(Near Constant)/Vunkerl
7.Light-Nyzul Isle(100%)
8.Darkness-Beaucedine/Xarcabard

That is how!

[FrankReynolds]

Fupa,

stop being lazy and go farm some flame geodes for these people instead of complaining about how you hate complaining. That way they can stop complaining and you can stop complaining about complaining. Everybody wins.

[RAIST]

That is how!

and again.. that chart is a limited sampling and doesn't completely reflect the weather patterns...fire was just in the forecast again for lightsday in altepa--for the fourth KNOWN time in this cycle during the first week of May.

That is 4 forecasts during the first week of May in game: 5/2, 5/3, 5/5, and 5/7---4 out of 6 days (or hours) with fire in the forecast. That chart only shows 1 instance near first and last weeks of the month for altepa and one mid May for the Cape, missing 3 instances right off the bat just for the month of May.

Again.... it follows a pattern, and if you put effort into tracking it....you can predict a lot of the times it will pop (to within a 1 RL hour window at best, one RL week window of high frequencey at worst). Over a week in advance, I knew ~20 seperate 58 minute windows during the past 9 days when weather would be in the forecast because I documented a section of the cycle and saw it repeating. Those instances started lining up with my notes as far back as 8/23 (RL Calendar).

Edit: I have two dates scribbled on the side... think they are for the next game year in the cycle. If that is true, fire will be in the forecast again for two lightsdays on Sept. 25--one lightsday starting around Midnight Eastern time, the next around 8 AM Eastern. Unfortunately, that's a Tuesday and not a good day for me...but if it was, I could check the forecast Monday night, perhaps hit it then, and/or hit it in the morning if I was up. That's almost a 2 week notice of two opportunities if those were in fact in line with the next game year for the cycle.