The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[Ophannus]

Why should it be be made easier to get? For players with gil, you can buy the geodes. If you don't have the gil just farm them on fire day. Sure you won't get 60 geodes in one fire day, but you still have the option to build it for free it's just going to take longer. Honestly 3-4m isnt so bad considering the stats on it. People pay 7m for +1 STR for Vulcan Pearl over Flame Pearl so 3-4m for more base DMG, higher attack and more STR on a weapon is hardly a big deal, most of the STR weapons have pretty good lasting potential for offhand purposes. Just buy all the geodes you can, drop 3-4m on the 65 geodes, eventually if you play long enough you'll make those geodes up once you complete your weapon, from exping/events where geodes drop. If you complete your weapon now and dropped 3.5m in geodes on it, I'm sure 60ish flame geodes will drop in your inventory within the next year just from doing Abyssea/EXP/random killings/Events in which case you can sell those and break even in time.

The expense of flame geodes and the rareness of fire weather are commensurate with the usefulness of STR weapons and STR rings/earring in my opinion.

As a closing remark I will say this though. Wait until the new expansion is released. Since there are reportedly 8 regional leader NMs or something of the sort in Adoulin, I bet the regions are divided up into ecosystems. If you look at the picture of Adoulin:


There could very well be a Fire Region(Volcano) an Ice area(Cave or Mountain) Water Region(rainforest) etc.. These regions could have a very high chance of weather for their respective elements. So just wait and see.

[Xantavia]

I'm not seeing what the problem is with flame geodes drops or price. Whenever I go to farm them I end up with a pretty gold haul of them. The only issue I see is everyone wanting things in this game asap, farm em on day or in weather zones like everyone else lol.

So care to share your secret? I recently killed around 100 bats in a single firesday for a str dagger, as thf, and got 1 flame geode and 1 ifritite. Maybe it was because it was in abyssea, but I wasn't using Aeolian Edge to kill them AoE style.
(Of course, it just reinforces the idea that my character has a secret negative TH trait. I hate you leaping lizzy and over 100 kills to get your boots)

[Kysaiana]

I've had firesdays where I don't see a single geode/ifritite on THF, with TH7+. I'll generally pull 1-2 of them with any luck whenever I feel like dropping everything to camp Firesday when it rolls around during the times I'm online. I got 3 geodes one time, and that was on PUP/THF with TH 3 (tarutaru sash)... so random is random. The best way to avoid ifritites is to mass murder crap that's baseline EP, as far as I can tell, they don't drop avatarites.

The number one reason flame geodes are expensive is because of pyrosoul rings, and more accurately the gem crafted from flame geodes. Because both the ring and the gem are around 3 mil these days. And those rings are expensive since everyone is bandwagoning Resolution/Shoha/Stardiver etc. So, unless the drop rate somehow exceedes demand, the price will never drop on them. But at least if the drop rate didn't suck, people could actually attempt it and make progress.

[Phogg]

Based only on my experiences farming mythril ore in sky, I would probably agree with the poster mentioning weather. I get tons of breeze geodes during wind weather farming there, regardless of the day of the week. Maybe try Ifrit's?

[Sp1cyryan]

As a closing remark I will say this though. Wait until the new expansion is released.....I bet the regions are divided up into ecosystems.

There could very well be a Fire Region(Volcano) an Ice area(Cave or Mountain) Water Region(rainforest) etc.. These regions could have a very high chance of weather for their respective elements. So just wait and see.

Yes, lets wait until mid 2013 for a possible boost to weather (not a real fix) based on your speculations. Sure! Sounds great!

Just lower the drop timer a minute or two AND make trites drop separately.

Since that messes with the current BARRANCE (not really considering adding trites like they did f*cked the balance of geodes) you could make the trites drop a tiny bit less since they are the last trial after all and you need 15 of them compared to the 55 geodes.

Based only on my experiences farming mythril ore in sky, I would probably agree with the poster mentioning weather. I get tons of breeze geodes during wind weather farming there, regardless of the day of the week. Maybe try Ifrit's?

The cauldron gets more rain than fire...

[Teraniku]

Just for comparison, Had two Magian Parties and during the time of Firesday got 3 to drop both times on my last 2 runs. Not hateful, but not that great either.

[Phogg]

The cauldron gets more rain than fire...

Guess you need more gil then.

[Ophannus]

Cauldron shares climate with the jungle since its the same region. Gets mostly monsoons and rainstorms though since its a tropical jungle.

[Kristal]

While its not super Expensive for some players, for a lot of average joes, Thats a high amount. You also have to consider some players have to do Multiple, I personally have 4 Fire Weapons i want to complete... Axe, Sword, Katana, and Dagger.

4 mil is not a high amount, unless you're sitting in your moghouse waiting for stuff to fall into your lap. Which is indeed the average joe approach, so you are right there. AJs are lazy.

Anyone can get that amount in a week, two if they are unlucky. Ofcourse, question remains if you can actually BUY that many of the AH even if you have the money.

Increasing droprates of geodes would help, but SE also needs to remove the geode recipes and/or replace them with avatarites. (Remove gems from geode HQ3, add them as avatarite HQ3) Otherwise goldsmiths just buy the geodes right from under your nose.

[Dreamin]

Dont know if anyone else notice this or not, but when I was doing my flame trial/geodes I noticed that the lower tier mobs trend to drop geodes more often than ifritites. For example, I was able to get about 2-4 geodes killing Lesser Colibris out by the Waypoint outside of WG. But if I were to try to kill faster and kill inside Abyssea I trend to get ifritites instead. [Abyssea is faster due to repop timer].

So at the end, I ended up killing slower but didn't have to buy as many. Not sure if it's just me and 'luck' though.