The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[Nawesemo]

Our intelligence being insulted, or yours? I never cared to be the anal guy who can't use reason to observe and absorb an intenended message, i mean, if its my job to write and be gramaticly correct when shooting the poo around a watercooler during a break from a hobby of mine, sure, I can see the complaint, or if the message was intended to be as proper as it could, sure poke away, but I'm not going to go edit a message with as little importance to me now as when I said it.... Just so others dont have to practice tolerance, and reason..... Be as litteraly as you like, but don't expect others to just for the sake of your enjoyment, after all thats why they're here too. Ease up. Live a little..... Unless u an editor for some newspaper, I never understood gramatic corrections on forums.... Sorry if that comes off offensive, but really? Context means something. Figure it out, and leave it alone ya know?

Back on subject, over the weekend, I got 6!!!!!! Flame geodes. Luck?

[Demon6324236]

Fupa just doesn't want people to have nice things.

[RAIST]

So I'm need to plan my life around FFXI I think not

Why do people jump to this stance so quickly....

no, not saying you need to plan your life around FFXI...but if you are looking for specific weather to speed things up, there are ways to know in advance when it is likely (or even for certain) to occur and you can plan your play sessions accordingly. If you know your weather prospects aren't good this week, but may be next week....you can plan to try to take advantage of it when your chances are best vs. spinning your wheels when you have the worst window of opportunity.

For instance, I already know that tomorrow there is a pretty decent shot at getting fire weather on firesday in the Cape during early evening for me (just before 8PM), and another shot a few hours later on watersday, just before midnight. So... I know if I'm going to be farting around Friday night in game, I have two shots at catching some weather TOMORROW night.

I actually knew this 2 weeks ago, because I tracked the dates in the past, and I saw the pattern repeating itself back then---if it is indeed holding true, than I also know I have a shot at it again on Saturday (my day off) for Lightningsday in Kuzots just before 4PM. If I am going to be on, I already know I can hit QSC for some GOV tabs and go for flame geodes if I needed them. Same goes for 6PM Monday, and a two day window on Tuesday from 4:45 to 6:40--when I would be coming home from work, so I may still be able to hop on and catch a window if I wanted.

The point is there are ways to help you make the most of your time....it just takes a little forethought instead of just haphazardly trying to catch it randomly. At the very least, one can use the weather reporting at the bazaar site for a couple hours notice of when weather may be popping, or to track when the more opportune windows are coming up (like fire's pattern starts ramping frequency up in about a week, making it a good time to watch for fire around the weekend of the 14th).

Edit: as predicted last night... fire is indeed in the forecast for Darksday (19:38-20:36 Eastern) for Kuzots, still in-line with the pattern I took notes on back in March 2012.

[Lisotte]

People. Please use your and you're properly. It's disgusting to constantly read. I'm saying he feels empy/relic/mythic are out of reach. Ok so he had bad luck and probably bad kill speed, which resulted in no geode drops. NEEDS TO BE FIXED GUYS.

Of all the most condescending, elitist, stubborn... (I think you catch my drift). Get off your high horse dude. Maybe you've played from 2004; maybe you've gone and gotten your mythic. Maybe you've gotten your relic, back when it was actually comparable to a mythic. Maybe now you can get an empyrean. Maybe not. But if so (and I sincerely hope you have done all three of those things to argue the point you've been attempting to make), but if so then of course getting a fire weapon's a walk in the park. Farm geodes a couple weeks, make gil over a couple of days.

But... no one cares. Hardcore players aren't the only people playing XI (and if you personally aren't a hardcore player, then you're just a troll). Hardcore players have their relics and mythics made for them. Empyrean's kind of between the casual, and the hardcore.

But there's many more people playing this game than hardcore players, and that's what the elemental weapon trials are for. In a day or two you can just fly through all the ice trials, in a few days you could fly through a number of other trials, such as wind trials.

That's all fine and dandy, but if you need a fire weapon, you're SOL. You can't get that fire weapon that's the baseline weapon for being semi-competitive in events. You're stuck with what you can afford off the AH (which is probably not much, since you probably can't afford geodes anyway), or, God forbid, the dom notes weapons. You basically play a much crappier version of your job. Hence the "bad kill speed" you're talking about; you really think the people after fire weapons typically have the gil to GET good kill speed? How about the knowledge necessary for creating good gear sets for ws, ja's and the like?

I personally was able to make enough gil fairly easily to be able to camp the AH and buy them; not only is this obviously not optimal (for people more casual than myself making the millions I made would take a very long time), but also my server had relatively cheap fire geodes (often between 65k-70k apiece).

As people have made the point over and over again, it's not like making flame geodes is going to affect YOU negatively in any way. If anything it would make more people have semi-decently geared jobs for events; which would affect you positively because then you can complete those events more easily.

The worst thing about every one of your posts is the incredibly condescending tone you take; it's disgusting for myself and doubtless others to see you look down from your throne and laugh at the pitiful worms who work slowly to acquire what YOU got in your sleep.

[Theytak]

People. Please use your and you're properly. It's disgusting to constantly read. I'm saying he feels empy/relic/mythic are out of reach. Ok so he had bad luck and probably bad kill speed, which resulted in no geode drops. NEEDS TO BE FIXED GUYS.

Until you answer my question, which I've posed to you several times, you're really in no position to play grammar nazi. I agree that it's irritating to see people use shitty grammar, but it's even more annoying to see you blatantly trolling and acting like you're not.

So once again, how would improving or easing the ability to obtain flame geodes negatively impact you in any way, that you're so fervently against it? Do you not have an answer for this question? Are you ignoring it because you feel your answer should be obvious? If the latter's the case, you're not nearly as skilled at subtext as you seem to think. I'd like to hear an answer from you about this, and this is the final time I'm going to ask it. If you continue to ignore it again, I'm going to take it as fully admitting that you're doing nothing but openly trolling this thread.

[Fupafighter]

1. Answered your question, via I said it would not harm anything except for people that farm them for gil. 2. If you think a fire path weapon is impossible, you need to reconsider playing this game. Casual players on FFXI can accomplish making a relic in 3 months if they set their mind to it. That's TWO hours a day. To me that's pretty casual on FFXI. IF you play less than that, I'm sure the dev's are not concerned with pleasing the people who are more than likely not going to stick around. You can accomplish alot with 2 hours in FFXI. Stop complaining this is "impossible". Me having common knowledge of a game makes me hardcore? Dude I play 2 hours a day on average and like once a week I sit down and game for a day. That's hardcore? No. It comes down to understanding what to do with your time and how to have fun with your time. If you can't farm the damn geodes, shout for them or camp the auction house. UTILIZE WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN. STOP ASKING FOR THEM TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER. It's called stupidity, not bad design.Also if they have the knowledge to login to these forums to bitch about it, they could also look up ways to obtain gil and ask the actual hardcore gamers on sites such as ffxiah.com or wiki.bluegartr.com for information on how to be more successful on FFXI Have a nice time. Done with this thread you lazy panzies. GO dev's for stickin it to the idiots.

[kewitt]

Casual players on FFXI can accomplish making a relic in 3 months if they set their mind to it.

That's if that's the only thing they do for 3 months. That saying to hell with being social all or helping other IG.

I log in 2 days a week on the weekend normally.. That's it unless there is some one off or stocking AH and that's all I log in and do. I play for 5-10+ hour on the 2 days I log in. So that gives me 4 hours a week x 16 your saying I could get my relic done.

At 150 Dynamis -money a day... thats 300 a week so that's 3 100's a week.. x 16 weeks... ok so that get me to.. lets think.. 45.. I'm still short 100 100's Sorry relic in 3 months for casual I think not.. So now to finish my Relic I need to spend another 4.5+ months. So that is 7-8 months for one item I think that's hardcore.

That almost means I have to skip out on social LS events. +1 and +2 emp gear farming, Also maybe getting my Fire weapons would make it easy to hit that 150 Dynamis money a day. I've only done neo-Dynamis 3 times. 1st time my hubby and I lasted about 40 mins before my hubby died and forgot a RR items. The next time 2 times it was to farm gear and help a LS member who IS hardcore go after there 3rd Relic weapon.

By all means I'm not a totally casual player if you look at everything I have done mission, level and crafting wise.
http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Shiva/Kewitt
All of the missions but WoTG where done before 75 cap raised.

UTILIZE WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN. STOP ASKING FOR THEM TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER.

We aren't asking it to be easier per say, we are saying it's not even, and if they would increase the Flame geode drop rate all elemental weapons equal diffidently to get vs flame geode being many times harder vs all the others.

[TMG]

Basically, SE loves their "balance" and people are complaining that it's not balanced. The drop rate is supposed to be the same as anything else but after numerous attempts to farm geodes on Firesday with no weather I don't believe it. Plus there's the complete lack of fire weather most of the year. You could retrace and zone into Grauberg (S) nearly any day of the year and find wind weather. Most every other weather is plentiful. If you see fire weather during the summer months in one of the few zones that have high enough level mobs to drop them, it's gone in 5 minutes. It's definitely possible to farm them with some planning and a lot of extra time to set aside for it, but it's just not balanced compared to the other elements.

[Vold]

1. Answered your question, via I said it would not harm anything except for people that farm them for gil. 2. If you think a fire path weapon is impossible, you need to reconsider playing this game. Casual players on FFXI can accomplish making a relic in 3 months if they set their mind to it. That's TWO hours a day. To me that's pretty casual on FFXI. IF you play less than that, I'm sure the dev's are not concerned with pleasing the people who are more than likely not going to stick around. You can accomplish alot with 2 hours in FFXI. Stop complaining this is "impossible". Me having common knowledge of a game makes me hardcore? Dude I play 2 hours a day on average and like once a week I sit down and game for a day. That's hardcore? No. It comes down to understanding what to do with your time and how to have fun with your time. If you can't farm the damn geodes, shout for them or camp the auction house. UTILIZE WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN. STOP ASKING FOR THEM TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER. It's called stupidity, not bad design.Also if they have the knowledge to login to these forums to bitch about it, they could also look up ways to obtain gil and ask the actual hardcore gamers on sites such as ffxiah.com or wiki.bluegartr.com for information on how to be more successful on FFXI Have a nice time. Done with this thread you lazy panzies. GO dev's for stickin it to the idiots.

If someone is farming these for income then they are seriously doing it wrong. So, either you are one of those farmers or you're just trolling. "Just deal with it" is not a valid view point to have here by anyone whom is not trying to lol farm flame geodes for gil. The truths of the matter are known and well documented. Fire weather blows and SE in all their wisdom decided to give geodes two uses: Trials and Goldsmithing. It was an issue perhaps "fixed" by not including GS applications for the newer versions of these items after they saw the chaos with geodes(maybe they do now, I don't know), and if that is the case they certainly have done nothing to solve the geode problems. Their answer is an remarkable "deal with it, it's the way of things" although I shouldn't be too surprised because that has often been their stance through out the years.

They'd be partly right. Fire weather was always rare and obviously meant to be so. If they provide aid in this case they'd have to provide aid in many cases just to be fair about it. The reason I say "partly right" is that they already went there when they raised the level cap. The game has changed a huge deal since that decision was made. Perhaps it's time they go all in and say goodbye to "the way of things." They gave us the trials and geodes. It's on their heads to make things right and balanced. If they don't then it's just hypocritical to nerfbalance everything but what they don't want to. If you're going to balance then balance fairly, and not selectively. Perhaps pointless to point out with a new chief in town. We'll see in the near future whether he'll be about status quo or positive change...

[Fupafighter]

That's if that's the only thing they do for 3 months. That saying to hell with being social all or helping other IG.

I log in 2 days a week on the weekend normally.. That's it unless there is some one off or stocking AH and that's all I log in and do. I play for 5-10+ hour on the 2 days I log in. So that gives me 4 hours a week x 16 your saying I could get my relic done.

At 150 Dynamis -money a day... thats 300 a week so that's 3 100's a week.. x 16 weeks... ok so that get me to.. lets think.. 45.. I'm still short 100 100's Sorry relic in 3 months for casual I think not.. So now to finish my Relic I need to spend another 4.5+ months. So that is 7-8 months for one item I think that's hardcore.

That almost means I have to skip out on social LS events. +1 and +2 emp gear farming, Also maybe getting my Fire weapons would make it easy to hit that 150 Dynamis money a day. I've only done neo-Dynamis 3 times. 1st time my hubby and I lasted about 40 mins before my hubby died and forgot a RR items. The next time 2 times it was to farm gear and help a LS member who IS hardcore go after there 3rd Relic weapon.

By all means I'm not a totally casual player if you look at everything I have done mission, level and crafting wise.
http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Shiva/Kewitt
All of the missions but WoTG where done before 75 cap raised.




We aren't asking it to be easier per say, we are saying it's not even, and if they would increase the Flame geode drop rate all elemental weapons equal diffidently to get vs flame geode being many times harder vs all the others.

Neo dynamis is how you make a relic in 3 months. Not farming cities with your perle gear. Farming +2 gear is not a LS event. I would love to be able to sit down uninterrupted for 5 hours a day. That could farm me potentially 4 million gil atleast. I'm trying to actually give advice on how to farm geodes and gil easier and all I'm getting is "WELL HOW WOULD MAKING IT EASIER HARM YOOOOOOOOOOOOU FUPA". That's seriously how I picture you saying it, like patrick from spongebob. Saying you failed neo dynamis is no excuse for not having a relic and it now becomes SE's problem that you weren't competent enough to solo easy prey monsters and bring reraise? And why should the better magian weapons be as easy to make as the non used ones? Example being fire vs wind. Wind is not good, it's decent, but offers nothing in almost all situations now. Opposd to Fire, which offers str attack and helps cap pDIF on monsters, potentially boosting your DPS. Why should the fire be as easy to make as that wind path one? Now I will apply this to empyreans. Ukon is harder to make than Masamune by far. Ukon is better than Masa. Get my point?