The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[Kysaiana]

No. Thf in no way can compete with any 2 hand DD in solo situations. Fact. And that image isn't working. I'm assuming that there was an alliance in play. You can get 1 geode/ite every 5 minutes PER alliance. SO you can get 3 in 5 minutes. Otherwise I have never seen a x2 in 5 minutes.

I posted earlier in this thread that I've personally gotten 2 geodes in under 5 min in a zone with weather, it's uncommon but it happens. After farming geodes on several different jobs, I'd have to agree TH doesn't seem to matter. I've tried on pup blu thf and drk. I had the same general kill speed/number by the end of the game day and the same average of geodes, 1-2 with the occasional 0.

If there's a timer at all, it's not 5 min, and I doubt logging out would do anything but lower your kill speed since I've personally had no geode drop for the first 30-40 mins of a firesday before. Not to mention the times were 0 dropped at all. "Timers" aren't the issue with geode farming on days, it's the piss poor drop rate.

So again, people aren't asking for flame geodes to be cheaper (at least I'm not), we're just asking for fire weather to be as common as the other 7 weathers.

[TMG]

There was ONE time I also had 2 geodes in the pool with only one party, 3 people in party. There was wind weather present, I don't remember what day it was though. It was in Sky, I was really confused about it and I've never seen it happen again since. It is entirely possible that one of us had zoned in after the first one was in the pool and gotten the kill shot for the second one... it's been over a year since it happened but I know we were trying to pop Steam Cleaner at the time and I seem to remember zoning in after the detector had been pulled and dolls were being killed.

Whatever it is, zoning DOES help, immensely. I was farming flame geodes in Meriph (S) on firesday, and a random bout of fire weather popped. After each geode I would recall back into the zone and resume killing, and get a geode almost every single mob, if not then the second mob would drop one. I came out with 12 flame geodes on that one firesday. I've done the same thing in sky with wind weather and come out with a boat load of geodes by camping by one of the Ve'lugannon zones. I've never been able to duplicate 2 geodes/1 party, and there's been many many opportunities for it to happen. There's some kind of exception where it can happen, it's just extremely rare and I still stick by the 5 minute drop timer/zoning reset theory.

[Theytak]

it's likely a matter that you can have a geode drop slot for both day and weather separately, but because weather overwrites day, the day drop's would be altered, and most likely, if weather's active, it's more likely to use that drop slot instead of day, even if one is waiting on the 5 min timer and the other isn't, but there's a very low chance that the day's drop will get through instead, and thus give you two in less than 5 minutes. That's purely speculation, though.

[TMG]

I agree, that'd make the most sense since day drops are so rare already you're not likely to see two at once.

[kewitt]

I thought OK Let me see what happens. I got to Cape Teriggan at 1:12, as my level 99 thf/dnc and farmed flame geodes.
No weather happened.
Flame Geode 0
0:32 into earth day 1 soil geode.
Please fix this..

You made emp mystic and relic out of reach for me. As well as the next best thing. Games should be fun and this isn't.

[Fupafighter]

I thought OK Let me see what happens. I got to Cape Teriggan at 1:12, as my level 99 thf/dnc and farmed flame geodes.
No weather happened.
Flame Geode 0
0:32 into earth day 1 soil geode.
Please fix this..

You made emp mystic and relic out of reach for me. As well as the next best thing. Games should be fun and this isn't.

Nothing is out of reach, you'r just lazy.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I've seen breeze drop back to back to back to back in sky during weather. No other goede seems to do that.
If you're still claiming it's a timer, then perhaps each individual in the party gets one.

[RAIST]

I thought OK Let me see what happens. I got to Cape Teriggan at 1:12, as my level 99 thf/dnc and farmed flame geodes.
No weather happened.
Flame Geode 0
0:32 into earth day 1 soil geode.
Please fix this..

You made emp mystic and relic out of reach for me. As well as the next best thing. Games should be fun and this isn't.

In-game date was 11/13 and 11/14---half-way into the fall season, so cooler weather patterns are more prominent now. You just missed the two days fire weather was actually in the forecast (Windsday and Lightsday, 11/09 and 11/11 respectively). There may be some more odd occurrences that crop up...have a few dates noted that should still be accurate for this in-game calendar year:

12/17, Watersday in Kuzots (07:09 Eastern on Sept. 6)
12/30 Darksday in Kuzots (19:38 Eastern on Sept. 6)

If these game days also hold true like the others I've recently checked on, it may pop again on these days as well:

01/21, Iceday in Kuzots (15:48 Eastern on Sept. 7)
01/25, Firesday in Volbow (19:38 Eastern on Sept. 7)
01/27, Watersday in Volbow (21:33 Eastern on Sept. 7)

Granted, these may well be very short cycles for some of these forecasts because it is "off-season weather"...but the point is it follows a predictable pattern if one takes the time to track it. So far during the past 3 weeks, it has been a 100% match for the last 10 specific dates I have checked against in my notes from the last time I specifically hunted weather/days for geodes for a friend a few months back.

Not saying the system in general couldn't use some tweaking, but there IS a way to mitigate some of these problems IF you are willing to put in the effort.

[kewitt]

In-game date was 11/13 and 11/14---half-way into the fall season, so cooler weather patterns are more prominent now. You just missed the two days fire weather was actually in the forecast (Windsday and Lightsday, 11/09 and 11/11 respectively). There may be some more odd occurrences that crop up...have a few dates noted that should still be accurate for this in-game calendar year:

12/17, Watersday in Kuzots (07:09 Eastern on Sept. 6)
12/30 Darksday in Kuzots (19:38 Eastern on Sept. 6)

If these game days also hold true like the others I've recently checked on, it may pop again on these days as well:

01/21, Iceday in Kuzots (15:48 Eastern on Sept. 7)
01/25, Firesday in Volbow (19:38 Eastern on Sept. 7)
01/27, Watersday in Volbow (21:33 Eastern on Sept. 7)

Granted, these may well be very short cycles for some of these forecasts because it is "off-season weather"...but the point is it follows a predictable pattern if one takes the time to track it. So far during the past 3 weeks, it has been a 100% match for the last 10 specific dates I have checked against in my notes from the last time I specifically hunted weather/days for geodes for a friend a few months back.

Not saying the system in general couldn't use some tweaking, but there IS a way to mitigate some of these problems IF you are willing to put in the effort.

So I'm need to plan my life around FFXI I think not. FFXI is something to do when I got free time not something I do because I have to get something done in. Sorry I don't mind spending time farming on fireday for 1 hour every few days when I log in and it's darkday. To get zero geodes sucks for something I should be able to build up 2-5 per fireday easy. That would still take me more then a month.

If I had hours and hours to play and get people to do things I would go after a mystic or emp or relic.

Honestly I hear people in my LS coming out of Dynamis daily with 100-150 dynamis money, atleast at that rate I could see the goal of a relic coming out of it. Farming flame geodes I don't see the goal because it seems to take so much effort for so little gain.

Nothing is out of reach, you'r just lazy.

Please explain how it's lazy to spend 1 hour and get no results. Your adding nothing to the discussion other then trolling and it isn't helpful.

[Fupafighter]

People. Please use your and you're properly. It's disgusting to constantly read. I'm saying he feels empy/relic/mythic are out of reach. Ok so he had bad luck and probably bad kill speed, which resulted in no geode drops. NEEDS TO BE FIXED GUYS.