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  1. #61
    Player Rekin's Avatar
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    The 2hr is bad. It will be never used in any situation ever. If there is a situation in which you'd even consider using this 2hr more likely than not you'd have already used the old 2hr before hand in an attempt to prevent the situation you might use the new 2hr.

    What is the developer's problem with BST? What angle are they viewing the job? Do they even understand the job's current state in the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Hopefully its like 10,000 HP.
    Even if it gave twice that, the 2hr would still be useless.
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    It doesn't take much to know when someone is special. After 5 minutes if the person is alive and well you have a keeper, if they are dead and obnoxious then toss em like two day old leftovers.

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hello Beastmasters,

    Thank you for all of your feedback. As you have heard, we nerfed the new BST 2 hour ability:



    We received a bit more information regarding the details of this update:
    The potency varies depending on the pet but the amount of damage the Stoneskin can absorb will be more than the actual spell.

    As for why this ability cannot be used on charmed pets is directly related to its mechanics. Since the effect variation is dependent on the pet, it is limited to only jug pets.

    We're still collecting all your feedback regarding all these new abilities so please let us know your thoughts.
    I fixed your post, you can thank me later.
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  3. #63
    Player Calamity's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hello Beastmasters,

    Thank you for all of your feedback. As you have heard, we updated the new BST 2 hour ability:



    We received a bit more information regarding the details of this update:
    The potency varies depending on the pet but the amount of damage the Stoneskin can absorb will be more than the actual spell.

    As for why this ability cannot be used on charmed pets is directly related to its mechanics. Since the effect variation is dependent on the pet, it is limited to only jug pets.

    We're still collecting all your feedback regarding all these new abilities so please let us know your thoughts.
    I'd still like an explanation on why this 2hr comes at a cost. The ability by itself is very lackluster, made even worse by the fact that we have to sacrifice a pet for it. Maybe, just maybe if you added an effect to this similar to the rng and nin 2hr that negated the loss of the next jug used, well, ok I still probably wouldn't use it, but it would be an improvement.
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  4. #64
    Player Mefuki's Avatar
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    One thing the Dev's don't seem to understand is that a BST's pet is integral to the job. Why would BST want to kill their pet in an attempt to "play defensively" when you need your pet to "play defensively"? I'm not a BST but I'm pretty sure that's how it goes.
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  5. #65
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    If you make it so that the stoneskin effect is simply the amount of HP the pet currently has, it should be easy to make it work for charmed pets as well. Using this on a local, charmed pet then pulling out their own jug pet would make it safer for bsts to melee alongside their pets on mobs with nasty aoe's.
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  6. #66
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    I wonder how long the effect will persist without being broken by damage.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hello Beastmasters,

    Thank you for all of your feedback. As you have heard, we updated the new BST 2 hour ability:



    We received a bit more information regarding the details of this update:
    The potency varies depending on the pet but the amount of damage the Stoneskin can absorb will be more than the actual spell.

    As for why this ability cannot be used on charmed pets is directly related to its mechanics. Since the effect variation is dependent on the pet, it is limited to only jug pets.

    We're still collecting all your feedback regarding all these new abilities so please let us know your thoughts.
    Hello Okipuit,

    Would it be possible for the devs or community reps to present to us a scenario where this 2 hour would be useful? I think that is where we are struggling. It seems that if an enemy is strong enough to kill one of our formidable jug pets, it will slice through a stoneskin effect in 1 or 2 hits.
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  8. #68
    Player Raucent's Avatar
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    Raucent
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    Valefor
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    DRK Lv 99
    aye for a good number of these new "2hrs" they would probably answer a lot of questions "what the hell are they envisioning?" "why should we use this over the original?" if they gave us plausible scenarios in which we would use New over Old 2 hr
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  9. #69
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    SAM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Hopefully its like 10,000 HP.
    id have to agree since falcor has like 4k HP.... and you can just dump 100% of your hate on him every 30 secs... almost no reason to ever use this 2hr....
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  10. #70
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    2hr fix: give BST the ability to call two simultaneous pets at once, the second pet will be completely random and last for five minutes. random chance of getting a HNM mob like Behemoth.
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