Do you really think that little of your player base?

[FrankReynolds]

How can you even say any of these things? This is not your game, you just play it. Like it or not, that's the way it is. The developers have always been vague about how things function, it's what they do. They're providing you with a service and you're asking for proprietary information that you have no right to.

You can't always get what you want~
You can't always get what you want~
No you can't always get what you want~
But if you try sometime, you just might find
You'll get what you need~

Did you really just break out in song during an argument to prove that your not a child? Never mind, don't answer that.

This is not proprietary information that we are asking for. No one is asking for game code so that they can go build a test server. We'r asking about things that have to do with game play. If I ask EA why I can't throw a 110 MPH curve ball in their latest baseball game, their gonna say "Because that's a stupid fast curve ball and no one will be able to hit it. That would be crazy." They aren't going to go "Because if we did that it would affect the hot dog vendors in the stands. Balance! herpaderp.".

When we ask why dnc isn't on mandau, we get "We would have to make it weaker for all the jobs.".

That explanation is intentionally vague and suggests that there really is no reason, so they made one up. If it wasn't BS, they would have said "We would have to make it weaker for all the jobs because x x x ."


And knock it off with the "They don't have to tell you anything" stuff. They opened a forum and asked for input. They are getting free QA testers and massive amounts of feedback. They can answer a few questions.

[Caketime]

Duh. I never disputed that I was condescending towards you. I'm like that towards snotty brats. Your random and overly zealous use of memes (even in your username) and shameful attempts at trolling suggest that you're either mentally challenged or a child, because no one else actually thinks that's funny. As I said in the quoted section, I'd hate to assume the first, so out of politeness I assume the latter.

So what if I am mentally challenged? You want to fight about it? If that were indeed the case, what would you have accomplished by pointing it out other than being an incredible asshole? You never know who you're talking to on the internet, I could very well be a mental patient, an obnoxious college student, or even your mother.

That aside, the point still stands that the developers don't have to tell you anything about how the game works. Request, beg, demand, whine all you like it's all the same. At the end of the day they're going to troll both of us harder than ever before over the next year, and we're both going to like it. I might even venture to sy that the entire community is mental in some way, as we continue to play this game in spite of many completely ridiculous things that transpire. Now finish up your sandwich and scoot off to bed, you've got School in the morning.

[FrankReynolds]

So what if I am mentally challenged? You want to fight about it? If that were indeed the case, what would you have accomplished by pointing it out other than being an incredible asshole? You never know who you're talking to on the internet, I could very well be a mental patient, an obnoxious college student, or even your mother.

That aside, the point still stands that the developers don't have to tell you anything about how the game works. Request, beg, demand, whine all you like it's all the same. At the end of the day they're going to troll both of us harder than ever before over the next year, and we're both going to like it. I might even venture to sy that the entire community is mental in some way, as we continue to play this game in spite of many completely ridiculous things that transpire. Now finish up your sandwich and scoot off to bed, you've got School in the morning.

So in a nutshell: Trolling the players is okay because everyone who plays this is mentally handicapped.

Good argument.

[Caketime]

Did you really just break out in song during an argument to prove that your not a child? Never mind, don't answer that.

I did it to entertain myself, sorry if I'm shitting up the thread with non-serious posts. The thing is though, you can't always get what you want no matter how much you bitch about it.

[FrankReynolds]

I did it to entertain myself, sorry if I'm shitting up the thread with non-serious posts. The thing is though, you can't always get what you want no matter how much you bitch about it.

True, but the squeaky wheel... etc.

It's really not a lot to ask. FFS, Larry page updates his google+ feed with info on product development etc. and responds to comments / answers questions like a hundred times a day. I think the schmoes at the FFXI PR office can spare a few minutes per day to give some honest answers.

[Caketime]

Absolutely, they could. But you and I already know they won't.

[FrankReynolds]

Absolutely, they could. But you and I already know they won't.

I'm pretty sure that you're not opposed to them communicating better. Are you just here to screw with people?

[Demon6324236]

Absolutely, they could. But you and I already know they won't.

And thats the exact problem this thread was meant to address and bring to their attention. Why are you fighting against this again? Do you want us to keep getting stupid lazy answers and know nothing about why our ideas are denied?

[cidbahamut]

[Caketime]

And thats the exact problem this thread was meant to address and bring to their attention. Why are you fighting against this again? Do you want us to keep getting stupid lazy answers and know nothing about why our ideas are denied?

Frankly, I think it's hilarious. These same developers denied BLU the ability to save spell sets because making the job more convenient to play would be unbalancing. Same guys who said that all pet jobs but BST may zone their pets because spending gil = balance. What makes you think they're going to listen at all? They only act when there's some huge glaring issue that will drive people from the game, and even then it takes them 6 months to a year to address anything, and this is assuming that their response actually helps or is just a temporary band-aid until we stop paying attention and yell about something else being horribly broken, or completely untested garbage events being shoved at us that are just re-skinned versions of older events. I see the futility in asking for anything from the developers because when you ask them for things they come up with gold like our new 2Hr abilities and completely ignore what was suggested in the first place.