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  1. #381
    Player Eyeballed's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    Please stop picking fights with every respondent to this thread and take advice or leave it.
    And throwing away seals is stupid; just save them up for BB items, by not using them for the chance of a chance that you'll get phalanx or utsu: ni.
    I'd focus your in-game time at hitting 99 on a job that can farm dynamis (preferably solo) and gearing that, instead of PUGs for BCNMs.
    But you have free will and you decide, just know that we are pointing you in more profitable directions.
    I'm trying to be nice. Really. Black Belt items are from Kindred Seal runs, if I remember correctly. We're talking about a BCNM/BSNM, which is commonly known to require Beastmen Seals. And I'll ask again, do you suggest I throw out said seals, as they are obviously worthless?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I was just assuming that level 61 rdm didn't know / didn't discuss the strategy with the group that she didn't form (funny because I haven't seen a shout for that in probably a year) and she says she always forms her own groups. The funny thing is that I used to do that BCNM a lot for gil and I saw a lot of groups wipe to it back in the "good ole days". She's trying to blame abyssea for the guy sucking, but the truth is that he had to level to 30 without skilling before he got into abyssea. So at most you can blame abyssea for 10 levels of ninja skill ups.That shouldn't screw up a UO run, unless everyone else on the run sucks too.

    TLDR; from reading her previous posts, I find her highly suspect and would likely trust a level 99 burned nin over her on red mage.



    Yes, doing nothing is super fun and patience is what people should need in a video game. /sarcasm I'll personally save that patience for the DMV or the line at the bank where it is rightfully expected, not in my entertainment. You will get no credit for work ethics in a video game from me. I have a real job for that sort of thing.

    Have you ever tried FFXIAH.com? They have a jeuno shout feature where you can just sit in jeuno and watch the shouts. It's just like old ffxi, only you don't have to pay a fee. You should just do that. We need more of that in the game. Or better yet, you can pay me for a game service where I provide you no entertainment and we both win
    This is so full of holes I'm not even going to bother. Meh.
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  3. #383
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    You can convert seals now; 3 of any 1 type to 1 of any other.

    If you have a solid regular BCNM40 group it's worth hanging on to Beastmen's, but otherwise KSNM99's where it's at.

    Not that there's really any reason you'd know this, of course, but the guy who does the exchanges stands right next to Shami so if you're doing a lot of BCNM40s you'd have probably figured this out by accident.

    I'm not sure how Royal Jellys has anything to do with UO when the subject was about a gimp NIN being the cause of a potential failure.
    At the risk of glibness, it was the decision to do Under Observation rather than Royal Jelly that was the cause of a potential failure.

    I think it's pretty self-evident that if you decide to put people in situations where they are more likely to fail than other, equally-productive situations, you must accept responsibility for when they ultimately fail even if there's a chance they (or a more competent somebody else) might not have, but I've met a lot of MBAs who can't wrap their heads around this so I'll try not to judge FFXI players for not getting it either.
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    The only one argument people need against you is that your suggestion would be infringing on their ability to enjoy the game. Your method would ruin a big part of the game for a majority of players, and that's why it shouldn't happen. There's nothing at all you can say against that.
    There shouldn't be anything to be said, but that was true 30 pages ago and somehow this thread is still here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    This is so full of holes I'm not even going to bother. Meh.
    About as many holes as your "I didn't realize that the ninja who didn't have Utsusemi: Ni yet might be a gimp" story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I'm trying to be nice. Really. Black Belt items are from Kindred Seal runs, if I remember correctly. We're talking about a BCNM/BSNM, which is commonly known to require Beastmen Seals. And I'll ask again, do you suggest I throw out said seals, as they are obviously worthless?
    This page should assist you.
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    At the risk of glibness, it was the decision to do Under Observation rather than Royal Jelly that was the cause of a potential failure.

    I think it's pretty self-evident that if you decide to put people in situations where they are more likely to fail than other, equally-productive situations, you must accept responsibility for when they ultimately fail even if there's a chance they (or a more competent somebody else) might not have, but I've met a lot of MBAs who can't wrap their heads around this so I'll try not to judge FFXI players for not getting it either.
    I'm speechless. I didn't "put" this guy anywhere. He joined knowing full well what was expected of him. He was even asked if he knew the setup/strategy, which was affirmed. What in God's name are you talking about??! You're not even entertaining the issue we're talking about.
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  8. #388
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    Sure you did. You decided to shout for Under Observation, which is substantially more difficult than a similarly-situated BCNM with roughly equivalent rewards. Having done so, you lost.

    This does not necessarily mean you shouldn't have done UO rather than RJ, but you absolutely shouldn't be coming here to blame book-burning and Abyssea and God knows what else for something that was ultimately your decision and thus your responsibility.

    This is called "leadership".
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I'm speechless. I didn't "put" this guy anywhere. He joined knowing full well what was expected of him. He was even asked if he knew the setup/strategy, which was affirmed. What in God's name are you talking about??! You're not even entertaining the issue we're talking about.
    You have a situation where you went into a BCNM with a total stranger whose skills and abilities are unknown to you and the fight is more likely to wind up in a failure than another, easier fight. All this for an extra 400k and a useless necklace?

    There's a failure here alright, and it has nothing to do with the current leveling system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    When the Ninja running Under Observation can't do his job because he's Lv99 and obviously has burned his way up, I certainly care. The other Ninja who wasn't ultra-gimp finished off his mob and had to help him through the other half of his. Almost cost us the run 3x over, if we hadn't had to carry him.
    So, one NIN is bad and the world is ending? Ok...

    You know there were loads and loads of bad and mediocre players back when the game was "hard" and leveling took ages. There were people who sucked and cost people wins, gil, and XP back then too. If the old system was so much better at training players than the current one, how do you explain that? Shouldn't the majority of players have been highly skilled killing machines ready to take on any challenge? They weren't though. If the system was so great, why did it fail so many people?
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