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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    We did that, or we got so angry that we threw the controller at the screen and hastily shut the game down and probably never turned it back on. That's what a reasonable person does when they accept defeat at something they're just no good at or can't be bothered with.
    Perhaps you are just no good at or can't be bothered with FFXI? Why do you even have jobs left to level? It seems like groups were super easy to get and everything was fun back in the day according to you guys who have been around since back when FFXI was a real game. Why didn't you level them back then? I blame you for the death of the six man group. If you had done it back then, perhaps it would still be around today. Shame on you.

    Someone who truly enjoyed the smooth fun exciting experience of a six man exp party should have had Maat's Cap several years ago and be onto bigger better things by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Yes, they are, in fact. If you want proof, just go ahead and do a /sea all XX-XX inv and send tells to everyone in that list and count the number of "lol" and "No thanks." you get in reply for a classic party.
    This looks exactly like how the old way worked for jobs that weren't in the "in crowd." Or if the two level spread around your level consisted of thf thf thf thf drk drk drg drg bst bst bst. Remember, level syncing is not classic partying. The people who you asked would then join another party with the popular jobs, and you'd have to solo for 12-50 per kill without signet defense and evasion bonuses, FoV/GoV xp boosts, xp rings, or mog tablet bonuses.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I've got an answer for you. When this game was released, and up until Abyssea, there was a fanbase of, I don't know specifically, but a much greater percentage than those that remain today. Abyssea ripped much of what we knew the game to be right out of the hands of those who were actually enjoying themselves, believe it or not; Those who didn't mind putting a little effort behind their mid-game simply for the sake of the feeling of accomplishment, if anything else.

    There's a few concepts that you, and many of those who support your argument, simply don't seem to understand. One of those is the illusion of choice. Because of the ratio in number of folks who prefer, (and I use that term loosely, point), the greased rail to endgame and the small remaining minority, those of the latter group are forced to either conform to the norm, go solo, or find another game. And even going solo provides only a percentage of the challenge that used to exist in the game, as it's far more productive to spam pages of EP mobs.

    Another concept is that this game is an RPG, and RPG's, since the beginning of RPG time, have had content to experience and enjoy at all levels of progression. There's always been a story, a journey, a gradual curve of character growth in ability. With this system, do you have any of that? Are you sure it's an RPG you want to be playing?

    The real problem I have, for one, is SE took the game and flipped it on its head for no apparent reason other than to garner a new playerbase, which is fine, except they did it while giving out a big "fuck you" to the rest of us. The "rest of us" being those who played the game because we liked what it had to offer.
    Funny, apparently you never leveled beast, blm, sum, pup, thf etc. before the addition of abyssea. As a matter of fact, I suspect that you didn't level much back then, because if you did, you wouldn't be worried about this now. You would be finished leveling everything.

    Your argument counters itself in that: There are not enough people who want what you want. If there were, you would be playing with them, not complaining about how they don't exist, so SE should make them for you.
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    There's no dislike button...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyi View Post
    There's no dislike button...
    Yes so everyone who dislikes the other persons post can like this Meyi's post.

    If you dislike the OP's post click like on Meyi's 3rd post as a vote against the OP's post.


    Next time you see a horrible IDEA post this..

    There's no dislike button! Click like on my post to vote dislike for original posters idea.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-02-2012 at 10:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsuka View Post
    I herd a rumor that they planed on making this game out to be like World of Warcraft. IF you turn this game into another WoW clone thats it for me.
    If by "WoW clone" you mean "successful game with a fuckload of subscribers", then sure. I don't see the point of any part of your post other than to cry about things you have limited knowledge about at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    If by "WoW clone" you mean "successful game with a fuckload of subscribers", then sure. I don't see the point of any part of your post other than to cry about things you have limited knowledge about at best.
    Uh no, WoW clones are mediocre pieces of shit and everyone has proven this. "Truckloads of subscribers" doesn't mean "good game", because some of the most fun MMOs out there have low subscriber counts.

    FFXI is one of the most successful MMOs out there, but most kids these days only think Sub Number = Success, which means Mcdonalds is the most successful and best Burger Place to exist using that logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Uh no, WoW clones are mediocre pieces of shit and everyone has proven this. "Truckloads of subscribers" doesn't mean "good game", because some of the most fun MMOs out there have low subscriber counts.

    FFXI is one of the most successful MMOs out there, but most kids these days only think Sub Number = Success, which means Mcdonalds is the most successful and best Burger Place to exist using that logic.
    "Learn from WoW" does not equal "become WoW clone".
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    Last edited by Trisscar; 08-03-2012 at 01:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    "Learn from WoW" does not equal "become WoW clone".
    However, "learn from WoW" usually mean "Turn into a WoW clone that everyone will realize and promptly leave your shit because it didn't do WoW as good as WoW did."

    There is a difference between "Learning from" and "copying"..how many MMOs that "learned from WoW" didn't flatout copy it? WoW in itself is a copy of older MMOs, however it's the most popular MMO due to advertising so of course MMO devs will go out their way to try to copy it's success.

    We've seen it with almost all new MMOs that came out the past half decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    However, "learn from WoW" usually mean "Turn into a WoW clone that everyone will realize and promptly leave your shit because it didn't do WoW as good as WoW did."
    No, that's not what it means.

    You're being contrary for the sake of being contrary.
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