New 2-hour Abilities

[Lastranger]

well SE is bloody stuborn on the whole AOE on RDM, at this point idk why though, they have changed their vision on so many jobs and made loads of alterations that they originaly didnt want for those job's.

Drg 2 hour was fixed to a 20 min JA, nin went from DD to tank, sam from tank to DD, sch got regen 5 instead of cure 5 etc.

I still think they should swap out rdm enhancing and enfeebling to AOE as well on that job as it was the original main holder of those abilitys before new jobs came, RDM has given tons of spells to other jobs its time for it to get some back.

The new 2 hour with AOE spells would be very usefull, just think 50+ boost str, 40% DA, double haste, enspell dmg on top, double value stoneskinra for almost900 or so dmg resist, double phalanx effect, double shellra 5 effect and bareffect. ofc limited to only once evry 2 hours, but even with 2 hour burned these would secure a room for rdm.

ofc it all comes down to how long 2 hour effect last if u only got 30 sec to cast ur spells u might have to prioritize witch is best for situation, but even as is with rdm/sch u should be able to do AOE Shell V and all other enhancing spells that are castable as aoe with /sch.


As for the Rng 2 hour im a bit divided, why do they try to fix ammo usage with a 2 hour ? id probably been more happy to have gotten a does 4x dmg a shoot for x time at 1/4 enemitty and carries over to WS or a TP regain giving 50 tp a tick for 45sec -2 min for rapid zerg with greatly lowered enemitty under 2 hour effect.
As for the ammo isue, if this is se answer to some of the ammo problems they doing it wrong, just up the way to make adaman bullets etc for less materials, or add some new Recycle JA that grants 50% or higher chance of recycle proc under effect, lasting 2-3 min recast 5 min.

As for the BST 2 hour, what where they thinking ?
BSt allready complaining about loss of pets on zones etc from jug and they add another eat ur jug JA that takes ur pet away ....
Heres what BST new 2 hour should be Grants access to all PET Ws ( including sevral they left out on sevral pet's ) or a regain/haste/DA effect on pet for 2-5 min with endless points to use on pet sic ws, allowing u to finish a kill on target faster on stronger targets.
Or even a Callable 2 hour pet ( mayby a chocobo like from origin story of BST ) or a Opo Opo NM pet with special sic attacks and higher then regular jug pet stats, just so many sugestions and they went with killing ur jug/charm pet or a DRG 2hour copy.

i wonder though if the Sam 2 hour might end up supa overpowered.

[Byrth]

Does Striking Flourish overwrite Climactic?
I suppose I could test by talking to an NPC to stop my timers and try it, but too lazy atm.

If it doesn't, I suppose you could stack that on to the last WS too.
When I first read it, I thought it said that Flourishes would be set to 0 Recast...
I imagined spamming Reverse for the duration. /drool

Nope. None of the Tier 3 Flourishes stack. Random trivia, but they also share the same buff spot as Sneak Attack, so they don't stack with that either.

I wish it did give Flourishes 0 recast and make them cost no FMs. Then we could really have some fun. That is what I originally thought it did from the JP version and I got excited. When the NA version was posted, that was downgraded to "At least it's still better than Trance." Realistically, though, I'm not going to be using this except in the rare situations when I know I won't be playing a job with a more useful 2-hour any time soon. I can use it for another 6000-7000 damage once per Limbus farming run or Assault spam (the only things I seem to do on DNC anymore) assuming I switch Twashtar to the main hand.

Really, unless they make it the way I thought it was I'm not sure this 2-hour has much potential.

[Xerius]

Cool so SAM is getting Perfect Dodge ++ and THF is getting TA + on a 2hr timer and this is considered balanced? I really hope that "Major Damage" isn't the same as "Severe Damage" from Coruscanti.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Honestly, RDMs shouldn't be complaining about the new 2-Hour. We already have the best dang 2-Hour Ability in the entire game, so anything they could've possibly given us afterwards was bound to be worse.

Huh? Chainspell isn't all that....

[Tamarsamar]

Huh? Chainspell isn't all that....

I honestly beg to differ. There are few situations that can't be improved with Chainspell.

[Aldarin]

So I really only play DRG, but to be honest this seems like we get nothing, in addition to a semi-useless 2hr we already have.
DRG 1st 2hr- Basically the same thing as the BST 2nd that everyone else can mention as useless. The only thing we get is some Haste, which can be gotten through other means, and reduces the effectiveness of our other job abilities.

DRG 2nd 2hr - Hey look, its spirit surge, only with a 2hr recast.......honestly. Spirit surge currently heals a very nice amount of HP, like 1/2, and then grants a regen effect. This happens every 1min 30secs. If our wyvern hasn't been staying alive due to this, then it's probably not going to stay alive during this 2hr without it getting invincible. Other than that I can see this being like a DRG version of Familiar, which is better than our current 2hr, but still fairly useless.

Here are some nice changes that could be done.
lower recast on Call Wyvern - make it 5 min, like Call Beast
merge Jump with Spirit Jump - there is no reason for 2 abilities, they share the same recast timer anyways, Spirit Jump is just an upgrade of Jump.
merge High Jump with Soul Jump.
give fight, heel, and stay commands for wyvern.
then give us a useful 2hr, or a couple of stances, like nin and sam have.

[Theytak]

Will you all stop saying that pup's new 2hour is "good" "not useless" "better than overdrive" or anything else that isn't "it's shit" please? Seriously, it's not better than overdrive, and overdrive is terrible. It's nothing more than a gimmick to amuse unintelligent players and those not well-enough informed about mechanics to recognize why it's terrible.

[scaevola]

Cool so SAM is getting Perfect Dodge ++ and THF is getting TA + on a 2hr timer and this is considered balanced?

Slow your roll, dude. It only stops TP moves, many of which can be stopped by Third Eye already anyway.

It's not the worst of these, sure, but there are still not that many situations where I'd use it over Meikyo (which I consider to be on-the-whole mediocre).

[cidbahamut]

Huh? Chainspell isn't all that....

I don't know what it is you're smoking but I want some.

Chainspell is boss.

[Edyth]

So I really only play DRG, but to be honest this seems like we get nothing, in addition to a semi-useless 2hr we already have.
DRG 1st 2hr- Basically the same thing as the BST 2nd that everyone else can mention as useless. The only thing we get is some Haste, which can be gotten through other means, and reduces the effectiveness of our other job abilities.

DRG 2nd 2hr - Hey look, its spirit surge, only with a 2hr recast.......honestly. Spirit surge currently heals a very nice amount of HP, like 1/2, and then grants a regen effect. This happens every 1min 30secs. If our wyvern hasn't been staying alive due to this, then it's probably not going to stay alive during this 2hr without it getting invincible. Other than that I can see this being like a DRG version of Familiar, which is better than our current 2hr, but still fairly useless.

You don't even know the name of your only job's 2-hour, so I wouldn't consider you an authority on anything DRG-related. Spirit Surge is your 2-hour. It restores the recast timers on all Jumps and transfers your Wyvern's TP and HP and stat bonuses to you, as well as a potent haste effect. It's better than many jobs' two-hours. With all the TP you get from your wyvern and then your restored jumps (which you should use right before Spirit Surge), you deal a very large spike of damage. The only bad thing about Spirit Surge is if your Call Wyvern timer is down.

You're thinking of Spirit Link.