New 2-hour Abilities

[Karbuncle]

Can't imagine EA or Scherzo doing much of anything since most of his AoE's do about 700~800 damage at level 99, Which isn't going to be high enough to activate either of those, unless your HP Is only 1k~1.2k or so.

But yah, Nerfing Perfect Defense is going to make Arch Dynamis Lord pretty much impossible, and nerfing Neo-Nyzul Isle is going to make that even more difficult(not impossible) for non-bot/flee Players, since that plays a huge role in it.

Long story short - SE is taking the nerf bat to the only two relevant events Absolute Virtue style, May as well hurry and get it down now since they never do a "Light Nerf".

perfect Defense is probably going to be changed to give maybe a 50% DT if we're lucky, probably half Duration too.
Embrava? Probably nerf the Effects of Haste down to 20% At best, Regain 3TP, and Regen half of what it is now.

There is no such thing as a moderation when it comes to SE nerfs. RNG anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

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Negativity out of the way, I really enjoy the changes the new 2hours will be seeing, Which makes me quit happy. That for sure is a step in the right direction. Even though that horrible sentence in the last spoiler makes me weep for the future of any level 99 Relic Weapon or Nyzul Gear, since it will be 99% impossible for players past the nerf to obtain, I like the updates, and thank you for Translating them for us.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

You really don't have to do this. There are several events that rely very very heavily on Perfect Defense and Embrava that would also require a near complete rebuild if you mess with these abilities. Some NMs and events, I believe, were created with these specific abilities in mind. Arch Dynamis Lord for example would be a nightmare without perfect defense, Neo-Nyzul would be even more unreasonable without embrava, and some legion halls would be completely impossible without both.

If you absolutely must change these abilities then remove the necessity for them from the the game first. I think, though, that you could make people much more happy by bringing other 2hours up to their level.

If it drops to recast 30 minutes they do need to revamp these as they were and still are OP, they have that or to completely OP every other jobs 2-hour and that will do far more damage than good.

Don't start off as the new producer nerfing things, we are happy with 2-hour waits for their current effects.

No we're not. SCH and SMN may be, but no other job is. No offence, but please ignore these kind of posts devs.

[Zubis]

Okipuit giving good news? Someone's no longer the new guy I guess

[Raksha]

If it drops to recast 30 minutes they do need to revamp these as they were and still are OP, they have that or to completely OP every other jobs 2-hour and that will do far more damage than good.

There is no 2hr that would be OP on a 30min timer. They only event that would even be affected is Dynamis, since you could 2hr 3-4 times in an entire run.

It's already common practice to reset 2hrs anyway after an NNI or legion run, this would only save time and hassle.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

There is no 2hr that would be OP on a 30min timer. They only event that would even be affected is Dynamis, since you could 2hr 3-4 times in an entire run.

It's already common practice to reset 2hrs anyway after an NNI or legion run, this would only save time and hassle.

Disagree completely. Both Embrava and Perfect Defence is SEVERELY OP on 30 minutes, especially compared to EVERY other 2-hour in the game. Just because a way exists to abuse 2-hour reset doesn't change that.

[Zubis]

There are several events that rely very very heavily on Perfect Defense and Embrava that would also require a near complete rebuild if you mess with these abilities.

Isn't that the point of this change? Mix things up so you don't see shouts looking for SMN's and SCH's anymore.

[Arcon]

Don't start off as the new producer nerfing things, we are happy with 2-hour waits for their current effects.

Hell no. Two-hour abilities are one of the worst design choice this game did so far. I wouldn't even mind if they purged them all entirely.

I do hope, though, that they take Byrth's advice and adjust content to reflect those changes. They should be careful with how they approach this. Don't let the people in charge wait six months to realize how they screwed everything up if they don't adjust the events accordingly.

[Sargent]

However, we believe that we will have no choice but add the lowering of effects of Perfect Defense and Embrava to our scope of adjustments.

Either don't nerf these too badly (maybe lower potency a tad), or as was said, adjust the content that demands them. No one's in debate as to how broken both of these are, but reducing them to the point of useless would be detrimental to a lot of events.

[Zirael]

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As for Embrava and Perfect Defense, nerfing these is acceptable as long as you adjust the content that heavily relies on them.

Nyzul Isle Uncharted, ADL and Legion were designed so that they would require Embrava and/or Perfect Defence (plus Wild Card/Revitalizers) to succeed. Depending on your approach, this might not bode well for popularity of those events.

[Crocker]

Remake the new BST 2hr from ground up and while your at it rework Run Wild to not despawn your pet.
The only time I use Run wild is when I get the 5 min warning at the end of dynamis.

Suggestion for new 2 hour: Morphs Current jug pet to a Mini King HNM or another style NM like Chloris, which it chooses will be random. Duration 30 mins when used with current 2hr extends time by another 15-30 mins.

Or if your lazy for something like that do the opposite of what it does now Take HP from us up to 50% of current HP and give the pets like 3 times that and give the pet haste erase stoneskin and whatever else was there.