New 2-hour Abilities

[Mirage]

Oh but you're forgetting one important thing, Arcon. Any content that Markovchain doesn't do and any abilities not native to his main jobs are completely irrelevant to the entire game. I thought you knew this by now!

[Xilk]

Markov? I thought you said you were rage-quitting? why are you still here?

[Khajit]

Most of the SP availiable for thf to steal are useless to the thf. Can we get at least some sort of buff to the thf when stealing a "useless" SP? Manafont is worthless to thf, Sam SP is actually detrimental to thf unless the thf had 300tp at that exact moment which they shouldn't be stupid enough to hold in the first place, drg mobs dont have spirit surge as far as I know,drk is just lulzy although you're gonna probably think it's overpowered like you mistakenly claim Aura steal is uber powerful,chainspell is actually good enough since when it's active it's possible to hurt alot of people so the utility of stealing it is more than enough, a large chunk of monsters wont be affected by this due to instant JA usage and Aura steal can take two buffs at once thanks to relic+2 so the new SP arguably lacks some overall utility/power. Would it be too much to ask to allow more buffs to be stolen at a time for this since it does have a long timer on it after all?

There's also a strong suspicion that all of the new content is going to give the monsters the new SP's which means the JA might be effectively useless against many monsters that are a part of new content.

[Arcon]

Oh but you're forgetting one important thing, Arcon. Any content that Markovchain doesn't do and any abilities not native to his main jobs are completely irrelevant to the entire game. I thought you knew this by now!

I do, and I wasn't talking to him. I'm neither brain damaged nor drunk enough for that.

[Fynlar]

They keep saying Invisible for probably the same reason they kept saying Araise a while back (whatever that is)

Eventually they will be like "oh yeah, obviously we meant Arise/Invincible, herpderp"

[Xilk]

Please + this post if you aggree.

Although the New Bst SP 2 ability is a really great ability, There is a small change which would be very good.

Currently, the special ability does NOT reset Call Beast Recast timer.
What it does is prevent the recast timers from activating at all.
This is just right for spamming the moves AFTER you use the special ability, but there is a scenario which will cause this special ability to be largely wasted.

I use Call Beast and right away use the special ability. I will still be able to use many ready moves, but I will NOT be able to change to another Called Beast. The call beast timer is Down, and it will not be back until long after the special ability has expired.


It would be best if using the SP2 for bst also reset the timers when you use it.

[Arcon]

Currently, the special ability does NOT reset Call Beast Recast timer.
What it does is prevent the recast timers from activating at all.

This may be just a mistake or oversight on their part, as even the new SMN SP ability resets the BP delay timer, as far as I understand.

[Demon6324236]

It also restores the SMNs MP, which is another similar problem.

[FrankReynolds]

Most of the SP availiable for thf to steal are useless to the thf. Can we get at least some sort of buff to the thf when stealing a "useless" SP? Manafont is worthless to thf, Sam SP is actually detrimental to thf unless the thf had 300tp at that exact moment which they shouldn't be stupid enough to hold in the first place, drg mobs dont have spirit surge as far as I know,drk is just lulzy although you're gonna probably think it's overpowered like you mistakenly claim Aura steal is uber powerful,chainspell is actually good enough since when it's active it's possible to hurt alot of people so the utility of stealing it is more than enough, a large chunk of monsters wont be affected by this due to instant JA usage and Aura steal can take two buffs at once thanks to relic+2 so the new SP arguably lacks some overall utility/power. Would it be too much to ask to allow more buffs to be stolen at a time for this since it does have a long timer on it after all?

There's also a strong suspicion that all of the new content is going to give the monsters the new SP's which means the JA might be effectively useless against many monsters that are a part of new content.

Exactly. This ability is going to end up being like hide. It'll be nice to pop it once in a while if it happens to be up, but it's not going to change how any content is done at all.

[Arcon]

It has strategic value, which is something THF never had before at all. It could be argued that, at one point, Trick Attack had strategic value, but that was not really used by THF mains, but DDs that subbed THF to Trick Attack Weapon Skills on the actual tanks. The only strategic value to the job at all was not combat-related, namely TH. This is about to change. Since THF often get invited regardless, I can see people including targeted removal of enemy SP abilities in their strategies, something that would have been desired in much of older content. Admittedly, it won't be as useful on current content, simply because there isn't much current content that's being done, and I can't predict how that's gonna change during SoA, but for now it helps me in both solo and group efforts and gives THF a raison d'être except for TH.