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    Player Theytak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    I wouldn't call crap on the RDM ability yet. Depending on effect and duration bonus, there could be a lot of potential here.

    Increase's to phalanx past cap
    Increase Stone skin past cap
    Possible higher Haste??? /awesome
    Larger damage from Enspell's that didn't equal to crap damage during accession when /sch
    Possible higher Protect and Shell value's
    More shadow's from blink /meh, in less they were major increase 10 to 20?
    Any increase to temper and gain spell's would only effect RDM so that's kind of a win and a lost depending on how you look at it.
    Increases to other's not so much of a win tho could have potential bar/aquaveil/spikes.

    I kind of happy about it. But I'll hold of judgement til testing.
    Hell, for all we know, it could make those self-only buffs (or maybe even just enhancing in general) AoE while active, and if it doesn't currently, you guys could scream until they give in. Pretty sure that would give rdm a permanent slot in zergs, if only because being able to give the melees in their party boosted stoneskin, boosted phalanx, boosted enspells (at least when haste samba isn't available or isn't necessary), and boosted temper (especially boosted temper) would make for some pretty handy zerg buffs.
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    Player tyrantsyn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    Hell, for all we know, it could make those self-only buffs (or maybe even just enhancing in general) AoE while active, and if it doesn't currently, you guys could scream until they give in. Pretty sure that would give rdm a permanent slot in zergs, if only because being able to give the melees in their party boosted stoneskin, boosted phalanx, boosted enspells (at least when haste samba isn't available or isn't necessary), and boosted temper (especially boosted temper) would make for some pretty handy zerg buffs.
    We had it out back and forth with the Dev's about aura's and aoe buff's for RDM. They've made it pretty clear that is not the direction RDM will be taking. Longer duration seem to be tho ticket tho apparently, and maybe quite possible higher value's of buff's.
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    Player Phogg's Avatar
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    I'm trying really hard to come up with any scenario at all in which that BST ability would ever be useful, and I'm failing to see any.

    Hmm, I'm paralyzed and my timers keep getting rest, suppose I'll use ye ol' Derpsorb!

    Phogg is paralyzed.

    /fume

    Honestly though, no idea how that ability could ever be deemed useful, where are you going to want to snuff your pet for some HP and reraise? Hell, the RR items we have relied on religiously in this job are cheaper than many of our jugpets anyway. Just no value I can see in this concept. I wouldn't even use it as a 10 minute ability, let alone a 2-hour....

    Maybe make it reset our JA's, or at least our Pet related JA's, or something that might possibly make it useful. I COULD see a combo of "oh noes" moment >> Run Wild >> Derpsorb >> CB >> Run wild, but barring something like that its just pointless.
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    Player fernando's Avatar
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    i liked what they gave to PLD, oh wait mybad it's not a 2hour it's called THE SHAFT.
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    These seem really weak as a whole. What happened to the person who designed embrava?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    These seem really weak as a whole. What happened to the person who designed embrava?
    He or she got massive schooling on scholary subject as "BARANCE"!!!! and how to please stop giving player a really really good two hours and one that is actually deserved to be called 2 hour job ability. So yeah, we are getting craptastic mostly useless new thing, except you know, Samurai is once again getting a new JA that is actually extremely potent.
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    Player Kavik's Avatar
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    WAR Regular attacks will become non-elemental and grants a drastic increase in accuracy.

    ^-- Meh, mnk already has this in Formless strikes, this would be a good new JA for war, but not a 2hr.

    MNK Grants a 100% counter-rate against regular attacks from enemies. Also, the amount of enmity gained by this will increase drastically.

    ^-- This seems redundant to what mnk already has. Bolded section: you are introducing a new tank sometime within the next 6-12 months and you are giving a unintentional tank job something that increases their enmity by a large amount? That's just a fuck you to anyone trying to tank, scenerio, mnk pulls hate, hits this 2hr for whatecer reason, looks whose the tank for the rest of the fight unless they die.

    WHM Grants party members protection from status ailments.

    ^-- Um barspells? ^ reads to me as AoE Fealty which is largely useless and would be even more so useless only every 2 hrs. This would be epic as a new regular JA however.

    BLM Grants a drastic decrease in enmity generated by magic attacks.

    ^-- with enmity douse this is not really an issue anymore. Unless enmity douse is down, then u need to be intelligent and not go batshit with spells.

    RDM Grants an increase to the effect and effect duration of enhancing magic.

    ^-- why? As most people have said, unless you make them AoE it's pointless.

    THF Major damage is dealt to the enemy and all enmity will be transferred to the player standing in front of them.

    ^-- Current enmity? Enmity developed during this 'assault'?

    PLD Grants an increase to the chance of blocking with a shield and reflects the blocked damage to the attacker.

    ^-- Add in a increase in enmity cap while this is active and i could see this being REALLY useful.

    DRK Steals an enemy's TP through regular attacks while the effect is active.

    ^-- Not a drk personally but knowing that drk is a DD job and this would let u spam more ws, i could see it being useful

    BST Absorbs the pet and recovers both HP and removes status ailments. Also, the player will receive a Reraise effect.

    ^-- no, just no. Let us use tp abilities without the tp restriction or take off the recast on tp abilities or something.

    BRD Drastically reduces the magic defense, magic evasion, and INT/MND of the target.

    ^-- .... meh, you COULD let us have 3 songs for one brd?

    RNG The range modifier will become the optimal distance no matter the range to the target. Also, ammunition will not be consumed.

    ^-- Not a rng but only useful thing there is no ammo consumed.

    SAM All damage caused by physical special abilities will be evaded. Additionally, weapon skill damage will increase as
    more special abilities are evaded.

    ^-- This seems like a tank ability, not a sam ability.

    NIN Grants a drastic increase in parry rate. Additionally, Ninjutsu recast times will be reduced by 50% and ninja tools will not be consumed.

    ^-- Nin already got this... they don't need an another ability for it?

    DRG Wyvern’s HP is completely restored and all status ailments are cured. Additionally, the wyvern’s stats will increase.

    ^-- It'd have to be a lot... like make the pet entirely impervious to dmg.

    SMN The recast time of both summoning magic and Blood Pacts will become 0 while under the effect of the ability.

    ^-- Overpowered a tad.

    BLU While the ability is in effect, blue magic from Unbridled Learning can be used continuously.

    ^-- As a regular blu this is f'ing epic.

    COR Grants the ability to use up to 3 Phantom Roll effects.

    ^--- ... yay?

    PUP Automaton will use special abilities. Special ability usage will depend on the automaton head.
    Harlequin Head: Mighty Strikes
    Valoredge Head: Invincible
    Sharpshot Head: Eagle Eye Shot
    Stormwaker Head: Chainspell
    Soulsoother Head: Benediction (Will only apply to the master and automaton)
    Spiritreaver Head: Manafont

    ^-- Eh better then overdrive, not by much though.

    DNC Grants maximum amount of Finishing Moves and the recast time of all Flourishes will be reset.
    Additionally, while the ability is in effect, Finishing Moves will not be consumed.

    ^-- Dnc does not really have long enough recast timers to worry about flourish timers, the finising moves would come down to duration.

    SCH Will direct enmity of all party members to an indicated player.

    ^-- Like pull everyone elses enmity off and put it on say the tank? Or make all future enmities directed at that person? If the latter that would help with tanking problems and make sch very useful in a tank situation.
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    Player Teraniku's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavik View Post

    SMN The recast time of both summoning magic and Blood Pacts will become 0 while under the effect of the ability.

    ^-- Overpowered a tad.
    Then take Chainspell away from RDM while you're at it, that's all this is, A SMN version of Chainspell.
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    Last edited by Teraniku; 08-03-2012 at 01:46 AM.

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    BST Absorbs the pet and recovers both HP and removes status ailments. Also, the player will receive a Reraise effect.
    I dare anyone here to find a another job with as much useless job abilities as BST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrick View Post
    I dare anyone here to find a another job with as much useless job abilities as BST.
    Level Name
    01 Familiar - Useless
    01 Charm - Useless (unless you are crazy like me and farm dyna THF/BST like a bawce)
    10 Gauge - Useless
    12 Reward - All Right! $$
    23 Call Beast - All Right! $$
    30 Tame - Useless
    75 (Merit) Feral Howl - Useless outside Dynamis
    75 (Merit) Killer Instinct - Nifty under the right circumstances

    Pet JA's
    01 Fight - Yeah, do it.
    10 Heel - Kthx
    15 Stay - Let's take a picture!
    25 Sic - Useless
    25 Ready - All right!
    35 Leave - Nuuuuuu! Effectively useless since charm when the way of the Dodo pet
    45 Snarl - All Right!
    83 Spur - All Right!
    93 Run Wild - Meh

    New 2-hour - Useless

    Add Pet JA timer reset and you have something, or try again completely. Otherwise, you have another line in the list of things no one will use.
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