New 2-hour Abilities

[SNK]

I can honestly say that I'll never use this two hour on BST.

[Raucent]

incorrect actually Abs-TP still works even at 300 TP. learned from helping ls on multiple Glavoid runs

[Glamdring]

Oki, pass it on please. The beast community (at least those that can be botherred to wade through all the drivel on these forums to get to the meaningful content) has spoken, the answer is a RESOUNDING "NO!!!" to the new 2-hour. Scrap the concept completely and go back to the drawing board. Again, there are a myriad of suggestions from back when you guys 1st proposed new 2hours back at the inception of these forums. Disregarding anything similar to this useless piece of monkey dung the devs came up with and the obvious OP suggestions there were still plenty of viable alternatives to work from.

Seriously, if you didn't want the playerbase's input and opinions, why did you ask for them?

[Glamdring]

@Frank,

you were a little vague there on the beast 2 hour. Are you saying the consensus opinion amongst beasts is that we need to keep our pets? That's my personal opinion, but the devs seem to be convinced that beasts feel differently.

[FrankReynolds]

@Frank,

you were a little vague there on the beast 2 hour. Are you saying the consensus opinion amongst beasts is that we need to keep our pets? That's my personal opinion, but the devs seem to be convinced that beasts feel differently.

yes. lol. ten character limit >.<

[Luvbunny]

THE PET HAS TO STAY, no matter what!! Agreed totally. What kind of an idiot come up with this retarded new 2 hours for beast master, not to mention countless of extremely horrendous ideas for 2 hours for several jobs, ALL EXCEPT Samurai, which actually get one of the best new two hours, pretty much the best of the best from several jobs. The thing that is the most baffling is their constant ignorance to what the players are trying to tell them. Several threads already made suggestions and their stance is still, WE DO NOT CARE NOR LISTEN.... This is a very sad direction indeed....

[Keinn]

I agree that the new BST 2 hour should not be one that consumes the pet. I'd like to see a new idea that enhances the pet in some way.

[Fupafighter]

THE PET HAS TO STAY, no matter what!! Agreed totally. What kind of an idiot come up with this retarded new 2 hours for beast master, not to mention countless of extremely horrendous ideas for 2 hours for several jobs, ALL EXCEPT Samurai, which actually get one of the best new two hours, pretty much the best of the best from several jobs. The thing that is the most baffling is their constant ignorance to what the players are trying to tell them. Several threads already made suggestions and their stance is still, WE DO NOT CARE NOR LISTEN.... This is a very sad direction indeed....

Tanaka's last strike for sam before he left lol.

[Czeph]

Anyone down for some new 2-hour information on this fine Tuesday?

We introduced two of them during VanaFest, but we just got a hold of the full list!

Currently, we are making adjustments to the effects and running tests on all of these new abilities, and we are planning to implement them in the upcoming test server update. However, as the Development Team is still working on getting all the kinks out, some will not be available right away. They will be doing their best to get as many new 2-hour abilities onto the test server as possible in the next update.

*The name and help text messages for each ability will be tentative when implemented to the test server. Also the effects and their values may be adjusted.

<table width="580" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" align="center" class="ta01"><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="th01"><td width="25%" align="center" class="th01" bgcolor="#a8d0d7">Job</td><td width="75%" align="center" class="th01" bgcolor="#a8d0d7">Effects</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">WAR</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Regular attacks will become non-elemental and grants a drastic increase in accuracy.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">MNK</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Grants a 100% counter-rate against regular attacks from enemies. Also, the amount of enmity gained by this will increase drastically.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">WHM</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Grants party members protection from status ailments.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">BLM</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Grants a drastic decrease in enmity generated by magic attacks.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">RDM</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Grants an increase to the effect of enhancing magic.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">THF</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Major damage is dealt to the enemy and all enmity will be transferred to the player standing in front of them.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">PLD</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Grants an increase to the chance of blocking with a shield and reflects the blocked damage to the attacker.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">DRK</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Steals an enemy's TP through regular attacks while the effect is active.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">BST</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Absorbs the pet and recovers both HP and removes status ailments. Also, the player will receive a Reraise effect.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">BRD</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Drastically reduces the magic defense, magic evasion, and INT/MND of the target.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">RNG</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">The range modifier will become the optimal distance no matter the range to the target. Also, ammunition will not be consumed.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">SAM</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">All damage caused by physical special abilities will be evaded. Additionally, weapon skill damage will increase as more special abilities are evaded.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">NIN</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Grants a drastic increase in parry rate. Additionally, Ninjutsu recast times will be reduced by 50% and ninja tools will not be consumed.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">DRG</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Wyvern’s HP is completely restored and all status ailments are cured. Additionally, the wyvern’s stats will increase.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">SMN</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">The recast time of both summoning magic and Blood Pacts will become 0 while under the effect of the ability.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">BLU</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">While the ability is in effect, blue magic from Unbridled Learning can be used continuously.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">COR</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Grants the ability to use up to 3 Phantom Roll effects.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">PUP</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Automaton will use special abilities. Special ability usage will depend on the automaton head.<br>Harlequin Head: Mighty Strikes<br>Valoredge Head: Invincible<br>Sharpshot Head: Eagle Eye Shot<br>Stormwaker Head: Chainspell<br>Soulsoother Head: Benediction (Will apply to the party members and automaton itself)<br>Spiritreaver Head: Manafont</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">DNC</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Grants maximum amount of Finishing Moves and the recast time of all Flourishes will be reset.<br>Additionally, while the ability is in effect, Finishing Moves will not be consumed.</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">SCH</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Will direct enmity of all party members to an indicated player.</td></tr></table>

First thing I will say is that reading these 2 hour abilities was a painfull process. I will try to tackle these 1 at a time.....

The new warrior 2 hour ability: seems fine if it's applied to weaponskills as well as swings, it would be viable for regular situational use.

The new monk 2 hour ability: This seems like a tanking 2 hour ability and a reasonable panic button for anything that doesn't use area of effect melee swings constantly. Sounds more like it should be done for paladin than monk to me.

The new white mage 2 hour ability: I can see it being situationally usefull. I hope it means -all- status ailments including death.

The new black mage 2 hour ability: back to the drawing board on this one. Just useless. maybe give black mages a job ability type spell like say "ultima" that consumes the mp pool entirely and does a solid 4000 unresistable damage.

The new red mage 2 hour ability: back to the drawing board on this one too. Seems a futile attempt at a 2 hour.

The new thief 2 hour ability: This may be quite usefull if repairs to the enmity mechanics are made, but it feels more like it should share a timer with trick attack and sneak attack, and do the same damage when bully is in effect on the monster that is targeted reguardless of another player standing there, rather than acting as a 2hr.... but if a 2 hour on it's own timer is what we get it's livable.

The new paladin 2 hour ability: I just don't know what you are trying to suggest here, this sounds like what reprisal should have been. I mean honestly, a 2 hour ability that mitigates all magic and breath damage whilest keeping the enemies attention focussed on the paladin for the duration of the 2 hour ability would have been a better option. And there are many better options posted on the forums no doubt.

The new dark knight 2 hour ability: this would have to be 100% procc to be usefull nothing resisting it. unlike blood weapon vs undead (a futile gesture, by way of illustration). And honestly, I think that dark knight would want something more damaging than tactical.

The new beastmaster 2 hour ability: I lack the vocabulary to describe what a bad idea this is.

The new ranger 2 hour ability: This seems like a potentially usefull 2 hour ability, I would suggest that all actions taken under this should generate 0 enmity, to make it worthy of having a 2 hour recast.

The new samurai 2 hour ability: This one seems about right for an ability you can use once every 2 hours.

The new ninja 2 hour ability: I can see the thinking on this one, but I doubt it will be well received by the player base, perhaps a rethink here too.

The new dragoon 2 hour ability: This is possibly the most pointless thing in the entire list. Start again please. I suggest something like a 2 hour where the player super jumps, the wyvern becomes constantly under the effect of deep breathing and the player takes control of the wyvern and can repeatedly use smiting breath, similar to chainspell but for breaths.

The new summoner 2 hour ability: This seems like it would be fun, if nothing else. I would suggest reducing the mp cost to 0 for this also.

The new blue mage 2 hour ability: I feel that unbridled learning should allow access to casting any spell that you have learnt although you wouldn't gain traits or bonuses from it as it's not set. That would make this 2 hour ability work. Otherwise just another gimmick.

The new corsair 2 hour ability: kind of acceptable imo, but people won't want to give up wild card for 2 hour resets so easily.

The new puppet master 2 hour ability: again this feels more like a gimmick than a well thought out 2 hour ability. however I'm less knowledgable about puppetmaster than any other job on the game, but surely we can do better.

The new dancer 2 hour ability: This must have sounded good on paper, but again this is a token 2 hour ability. please go back to the drawing board.

The new scholar 2 hour ability: This should be a spell that can be used under tabula rasa not a new ability.

Ofcourse these are just the oppinions of someone who's played the game since it was available in the uk.
I'm not saying my suggested fixes/instructions are the only way to go, just ideas. I'm sure there are better ones out there. I just feel something had to be said, these seem like 20 minute or even 30 minute timers would be better for them.
Even regular 2 hour abilities should probably be on 30-60 minute timers nowadays rather than 2 hour timers.

[Demon6324236]

The new black mage 2 hour ability: back to the drawing board on this one. Just useless. maybe give black mages a job ability type spell like say "ultima" that consumes the mp pool entirely and does a solid 4000 unresistable damage.

Rather than a static number, lets go with something a bit more fun! It allows you to cast Ultima on a mob, single target, takes all MP, damage is unresistable and deals 5 times the users current MP.

The new corsair 2 hour ability: kind of acceptable imo, but people won't want to give up wild card for 2 hour resets so easily.

Honestly I see this as 1 of the worse 2-hours we are getting. BRD is in the same line as a COR in a way, however COR has to use a 2-hour for 1 more buff where as with the Emp Harp a BRD can already do upto 4 songs at any time. Seems a bit unbalanced on the buffer side in my opinion.

The new scholar 2 hour ability: This should be a spell that can be used under tabula rasa not a new ability.

Agreed, this ability is 100% worthless in the current game when put beside Tabula Rasa.

Ofcourse these are just the oppinions of someone who's played the game since it was available in the uk.
I'm not saying my suggested fixes/instructions are the only way to go, just ideas. I'm sure there are better ones out there. I just feel something had to be said, these seem like 20 minute or even 30 minute timers would be better for them.
Even regular 2 hour abilities should probably be on 30-60 minute timers nowadays rather than 2 hour timers.

Yep, abilities like these are to long and too weak now days, I was hoping these 2-hours would be worth the wait but SE once again let us all down, except SAM, SAM is wonderful.