New 2-hour Abilities

[Zuidar]

From what I see from the new 2 hour abilities, there's a few that are promising and some that are kinda a bit off.
We have THF which is kinda like a Eagle Eye Shot-like Trick Attack? Scholar, I'm kinda confused about this one considering there's lacking of proper Enmity tools for SCH. Sure there's Augeo and Minuo but that's just it. Libra doesn't really count for as it only roughly estimates on party members' Enmity. Basically SCH's new 2HR is like something that is one of THF's specialties: Enmity Control, SCH can't control enmity.

[Theytak]

god, I really, really, really wish SE would temporarily reduce the recast on these abilities for the test server, testing abilities that last less than a minute and require you to run back to you rmog house between every single use is so many levels of unbelievable obnoxiousness.

[Theytak]

Also, wtf at the Sharpshot EES formula...
For players: EES Damage = (Normal Ranged Attack x 5.0)
For Pup: EES Damage = ((Normal Pet Ranged Attack x 4.0) + 6)
ie: at the 3 of the 4 main damage tiers for level 99 (410 skill (135 dmg), 428 skill (141 dmg), and 437 skill (144 dmg)) I got the 4x the damage sharpshot did with a normal attack, +6 additional damage. Makes absolutely no sense, but it was consistent...

[Balloon]

Also, wtf at the Sharpshot EES formula...
For players: EES Damage = (Normal Ranged Attack x 5.0)
For Pup: EES Damage = ((Normal Pet Ranged Attack x 4.0) + 6)
ie: at the 3 of the 4 main damage tiers for level 99 (410 skill (135 dmg), 428 skill (141 dmg), and 437 skill (144 dmg)) I got the 4x the damage sharpshot did with a normal attack, +6 additional damage. Makes absolutely no sense, but it was consistent...

There's probably no way for you to reliably test this, but, does it also have the increased Ranged accuracy?

[Theytak]

There's probably no way for you to reliably test this, but, does it also have the increased Ranged accuracy?

the number of EES I would have to pump out against the same target EVA is so ludicrous that it's not even worth testing. I've seen no misses, yet, but I'm shooting level -1 bunnies. Capped hit rate is guaranteed.

Also, because it works like sharpshot's regular ranged attack, pup EES has a significant dex mod, made even more potent by the fact that it's multiplied 4x.

[jake3614]

There's probably no way for you to reliably test this, but, does it also have the increased Ranged accuracy?

Actually, already been discussed in another thread, and it does factor out correct:

Eagle Eye shot is weak for a reason. Do this:
Sub blm, and take sharpshot out to west ronfaure. Make certain your puppet has > 101 str (102, 2 fire maneuvers is enough, do not use Cirque hands, because DEX influences sharpshot's regular ranged attack damage; this is sharpshot's fSTR cap at level 99), additionally don't wear cirque pants, and temporarily take out any ranged skill merits you have, so that you have 417 skill; use choke on a bunny, which ensures it has 1 vit, and then deploy for a ranged attack. If you get that right, it should give you 786 damage, every time. Next, repeat the process (with the same amount of skill, str, and dex) with Eagle Eye Shot. Theoretically, you should see 3930 damage every single time (if you stay consistent, and it's a straight 5x multiplier like regular EES). If you see over 3k, but less than 3930, it means that it's likely a 5x multiplier, but ignoring the regular attack's dex mod. If you see less than 3k, it means that they completely changed the formula for pup, and made it even weaker than EES already is.

Also worth noting, your numbers should, if you do everything correctly, be identical every time (ie: no +/- 1, they will be the exact same number), as well as being divisible by 3, and for EES, by both 3 and 5. If you get an EES result that does not cleanly divide by 3 or 5 (it has to cleanly divide by both, no decimals), then it means they really messed with sharpshot's EES numbers.

[Nawesemo]

meh... idk I see some pretttttty big numbers out of my blu's I'm not saying ya'lls don't do it right but mine make mobs die quick when they darn well please. and by no means am I saying i don't appricate em.. their mb's make for pretty mb's but they can and do parse very well against any other job vs. anything that can take dmg. Maybe mine are the cream of the crop but they piss my e peen off something mighty. azure lore+ ws+ magic = dark/light+ kabooom!!! and then a 5 sec stun, curing magic, a haste that makes a rdm cry ss aoe lol that's alot for a mage that can dish out a good chunk of dd. it's a buff job. very buff. and i'm probably feeding into the ego's of the ones I know, but yeah... lol I"m in the Nerf blu camp and they know it.

[Balloon]

meh... idk I see some pretttttty big numbers out of my blu's I'm not saying ya'lls don't do it right but mine make mobs die quick when they darn well please. and by no means am I saying i don't appricate em.. their mb's make for pretty mb's but they can and do parse very well against any other job vs. anything that can take dmg. Maybe mine are the cream of the crop but they piss my e peen off something mighty. azure lore+ ws+ magic = dark/light+ kabooom!!! and then a 5 sec stun, curing magic, a haste that makes a rdm cry ss aoe lol that's alot for a mage that can dish out a good chunk of dd. it's a buff job. very buff. and i'm probably feeding into the ego's of the ones I know, but yeah... lol I"m in the Nerf blu camp and they know it.

BLU is very very poweful on targets below level 99, but it is balanced out by being largely ineffectual against targets exceeding level 99. This is why it is balanced.

Nerfing PUPs Eagle Eye shot is something special. I clicked a japanese button and the client crashed, and now I have an hour update to do. Joy.

[Nawesemo]

lol whatever floats your boat. you win, blu sucks not going to argue.