New 2-hour Abilities

[Pebe]

When I said manafont makes the mob casts more i meant that when manafont is activated I think a lower spell recast timer is given to mob so they cast more often. Although I haven't paid much attention lately so idk, but I think this is how it works.

[Mirage]

Spells have individual recast timers, but mob combat scripts also have an "x spells per y time" thing in them, which usually leads to something like 30 second pause at least between spell casts. During manafont, this is lowered to a lot less, possibly removed entirely, but the mob still can't cast the same spell back to back.

[Demon6324236]

Not a bad point really, if a mob uses more than 1 SP, what happens? Say for instance something uses Manafont, Chainspell, and Mighty Strikes all at once, what is taken? Are they all taken somehow, or is it only the last one used, or is it still random, just it will definitely be a SP ability?

[FrankReynolds]

Stealing mighty strikes, hundred fists, etc. is only a huge deal if your group is unprepared for the event. WHat event are people doing right now where they don't have things like PD and CS to block those sort of moves? Is anyone really thinking that your group is going to replace a support job with a thief?

[Arcon]

Is anyone really thinking that your group is going to replace a support job with a thief?

No, but they may use the TH whore that's already on the spot and replace the SMN with something otherwise useful.

[..] But at least the ability would stop the mob from doing the same. Even if the effect is wasted on the thf who's unable to take advantage of it.

But how is that supposed to work? The ability is instant. Aside from using the SP ability preemptively I don't see how it can be solved any other way.

[Vinedrai]

But how is that supposed to work? The ability is instant. Aside from using the SP ability preemptively I don't see how it can be solved any other way.

eg: you use SP2 on a nin NM before it mijin gakure and put an enfeeble which prevents the use of mijin gakure for a short period of time.

this additional mechanic can also made to work with stealable SPs too. the thf could use it and prevent a stealable SP before it goes off instead of stealing it. for zergs fights, it could even be better than stealing it after the SP actually goes off.

[Khajit]

But how is that supposed to work? The ability is instant. Aside from using the SP ability preemptively I don't see how it can be solved any other way.

Well PW from what i recall uses astral flow then the avatars hunt everyone down to spam bloodpacts so in that case stealing Astral flow would be extremely beneficial. I could just be remembering an inaccurate description though.

[FrankReynolds]

No, but they may use the TH whore that's already on the spot and replace the SMN with something otherwise useful.

What event are you currently doing where the summoner is only there to block a single SP move every 30 - 60 minutes? And remember that this won't even block a lot of SP moves.

[Arcon]

What event are you currently doing where the summoner is only there to block a single SP move every 30 - 60 minutes? And remember that this won't even block a lot of SP moves.

I'm not doing anything that involves SMN, which is precisely my problem. On the other hand, everything I do already has a THF there.

[FrankReynolds]

I'm not doing anything that involves SMN, which is precisely my problem. On the other hand, everything I do already has a THF there.

Just to be clear, what content is this good for and why? Because so far all I've seen is that this move would be useful on one monster in legion, and I'm not even sure that that is true.

I mean obviously anything that hurts an NM and helps you is useful, but this is an SP ability. It is in no way game changing or job defining. It won't make anyone change their strategy for any event even a little and I suspect that will not change when they add more jobs / content. I really think that everyone is going to regret it if they don't speak up.