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  1. #51
    Player wish12oz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    If you're a crafter with 25~100M to burn you might as well just skill up instead, if you're a fisher who wants to obtain the cape to level a craft, you might as well just sell the fish to morons to fund crafting. This cape has absolutely no worth and the developers are complete morons for not just adding it to GPs initially.
    The problem with your entire post is that it assumes unlimited supply of skill up items. Even if you spend 100m on the cape and it only saves you 100m in skill up materials, thats still a positive thing, because you dont have to look for and find those extra 100m worth of ingredients. And all indications so far point to this cape actually being really good anyway, so whatever.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    The problem with your entire post is that it assumes unlimited supply of skill up items. Even if you spend 100m on the cape and it only saves you 100m in skill up materials, thats still a positive thing, because you dont have to look for and find those extra 100m worth of ingredients. And all indications so far point to this cape actually being really good anyway, so whatever.
    Their is no evidence of how much this cape will increase skill up percentages. Now i highly doubt its much. But even if it gave you skill ups every single synth, it still wouldn't be worth it financially. And it sure wouldn't save you no 100mill..

    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    because you dont have to look for and find those extra 100m worth of ingredients.
    Do you have any idea how much 100mill worth of ingredients are to a crafter?
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    Do you have any idea how much 100mill worth of ingredients are to a crafter?
    My guess woud be 100,000,000 gil but I'm no expert. =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    My guess woud be 100,000,000 gil but I'm no expert. =P
    Nah, it depends on just what ingredients are involved, and how much money the crafter can convert them into. Depending on the mats, I can turn 5k into 50k, or 83k into 400k. That said, it's not really a fair argument, because it belies the fact that any extra skill ups you get while skillling up on a profitable recipe would actually hurt your immediate profit, and would reduce the overall gain of the shawl; though that bit is HEAVILY variable between crafts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    If SE really does plan to take crafting to 150... this cape will be priceless.
    I understand that SE didn't want the cape to be rare cuz then 1 guy could get the cape then let all his other friends abuse it and trade it around. thou I'm kinda sure the current method of acquiring it is a bit tad over bored as well
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  6. #56
    Player Godofgods's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falseliberty View Post
    If SE really does plan to take crafting to 150... this cape will be priceless.
    Thats the only option in which this cape might be worth the cost. But thats also what scares me. If they increase the crafting limit, and introduce new high cost materials to the point where potentially spending 100mill on this cape actually would help in the long run... Then their might be one less crafter in the world.
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  7. #57
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    Meh to this cape, I'd be lying if I don't want it but its not worth the gil/time fish it. So gl to the fishers trying to make some gils.

    If the cape cost 100 mil in fish, with the equivelant gil on craft mats I'd say I can probably double that amount whilst skilling up to cap. you just need to keep up with the profit synths to cover your loss skill ups.

    What puts me off the most about this cape is that its useless once you cap your crafts and thats a 100mil gone down the drain (assuming its a 100 mil). So if you had a 100 mil to spend do what Sotek suggested just spend it on the lvling the craft.

    So all in all its pretty redundant with the costs involved to get this cape. Even if they do raise the craft limit I'll just repeat the above.

    Oh and to whoever that said crafting is dead you're full of S*@#t
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    Actually after reading through the july 24th version update notes, this line I read and I will quote

    "Ex Item Delivery Revisions
    The list of undeliverable exclusive items has been updated.
    "


    and yet Shaper's Shawl is NOT on the undeliverable same-account items!

    That means that there's a bug in both Plumb Boots AND Shaper's Shawl that made it non-deliverable between same-account characters! I tried CTRL-F searching on that page and it's not there. So that means that it WAS intended to be deliverable that way. So I guess I should report this as a bug. Hopefully the Devs get this and fix it

    The Shaper's Shawl and Plumb Boots aren't being deliver-able as it was intended to be
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    Last edited by Zuidar; 08-08-2012 at 03:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuidar View Post
    Actually after reading through the july 24th version update notes, this line I read and I will quote

    "Ex Item Delivery Revisions
    The list of undeliverable exclusive items has been updated.
    "


    and yet Shaper's Shawl is NOT on the undeliverable same-account items!

    That means that there's a bug in both Plumb Boots AND Shaper's Shawl that made it non-deliverable between same-account characters! I tried CTRL-F searching on that page and it's not there. So that means that it WAS intended to be deliverable that way. So I guess I should report this as a bug. Hopefully the Devs get this and fix it

    The Shaper's Shawl and Plumb Boots aren't being deliver-able as it was intended to be
    ooorrrrrrrr.......

    They forgot to add them to the list.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falseliberty View Post
    If SE really does plan to take crafting to 150... this cape will be priceless.
    I understand that SE didn't want the cape to be rare cuz then 1 guy could get the cape then let all his other friends abuse it and trade it around. thou I'm kinda sure the current method of acquiring it is a bit tad over bored as well
    Now it's based on potential outcomes?

    Someone is at 115 fish already, that's the equivalent of 115,000,000 it's still not justified.
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