Shaper's Shawl - Why?

[Theytak]

Good morning fishers,

The Shaper’s Shawl was set to be a difficult to obtain reward on par with the rewards that could be obtained by defeating a powerful notorious monster and we do not have any plans of easing the difficulty. For that reason, there are no plans to obtain this item through any content other than "Inside the Belly".

So, basically, the dev's are playing the "This is the way we want it, and we don't care what you think" card. That's totally unacceptable. The artificial difficulty here is several orders of magnitude more greater than that of the artificial difficulty of log watch. It doesn't take an incredibly large amount of time to get up to the end tier of VW, and once you're there, you can spam the NM you want repeatedly, for hours on end, to get your shot at that 1~5% drop rate. The time investment is there, but it's not even remotely on par with the time investment require to catch this fish, and it really stands as a very bad insult to every crafter who has no interest in fishing that one of the most useful items for synth-crafting ever to be added to the game would come from one of the skills that DOESN'T USE SYNTHESIS.

I love fishing, I really do, but fishing is separate from crafting, and it should not be the source of this cape. It's utterly ridiculous on so many different levels, and there's absolutely no way this should be acceptable.

[Shadax]

I'm normally a defender of any sort of improvements to the game but this is just insulting to crafters. Sorry, Devs, but you went about implementing this in the most ass-backwards way possible. I would rather you just remove the item from the game than pretend that this is even remotely possible for even above-average players. Don't forget your friends, family and work? I have to laugh whenever I read that and think about items like this.

[cRhyme]

well, while everyone says this is unattainable, i'll be fishing to 30, unlocking Inside the Belly and hawking for Matsyas in the meantime...

[detlef]

well, while everyone says this is unattainable, i'll be fishing to 30, unlocking Inside the Belly and hawking for Matsyas in the meantime...

As long as you are okay paying 1m per fish, I think everybody will be happy.

[Godofgods]

As long as you are okay paying 1m per fish, I think everybody will be happy.

I think This kinda proves my point well on buying fish at 1 mill each. He went 1/88. If he had bought them, he would of spent 88 mill on a single crafting equip. At what point would that be financially viable? Iv capped al my craft for LOT less then that...

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I think This kinda proves my point well on buying fish at 1 mill each. He went 1/88. If he had bought them, he would of spent 88 mill on a single crafting equip. At what point would that be financially viable? Iv capped al my craft for LOT less then that...

It's not feasible, unfortunately there will be those people that will think it is using the basis of it's minute increase to skillup as a reasoning.

You could level goldsmithing quite high with 88 million and then profit of the rewards to go the rest of the way.

[Kristal]

Care to post all those tests proving that this is a powerful item? What I expect from SE is nothing more than +1% skill up rate, or placebo. That's not necessarily bad, but it is given how you obtain this. Even if this was powerful though, it wouldn't be worth it.

It boosts skillup rates, which is going to save money. That's why it's powerfull. That's why everyone wants it.

SE could still make a weaker NQ version for 1M GP available, but for now you just have to live with the fact you can't buy it off the AH.

[Theytak]

It boosts skillup rates, which is going to save money. That's why it's powerfull. That's why everyone wants it.

SE could still make a weaker NQ version for 1M GP available, but for now you just have to live with the fact you can't buy it off the AH.

Except that the difficulty to acquire, and relative cost of Matsya will completely dwarf any profit gained from the unlikely-to-be-very-high increase on the cape, unless someone is stupidly lucky and gets it in less than 10 fish. It's a rather huge gamble with a very, very large cost, for a very, very small pay off. It's not even remotely financially worth it.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

It boosts skillup rates, which is going to save money. That's why it's powerfull. That's why everyone wants it.

SE could still make a weaker NQ version for 1M GP available, but for now you just have to live with the fact you can't buy it off the AH.

Not when based on the odds of getting it from the fish you purchase.

Unless you get it in 1~2 fish the cost far out weighs the bonus as you could have used the money to buy the materials to skill up without it, and probably profit more.

[Sotek]

It boosts skillup rates, which is going to save money. That's why it's powerfull. That's why everyone wants it.

SE could still make a weaker NQ version for 1M GP available, but for now you just have to live with the fact you can't buy it off the AH.

I swear, did you even read the rest of my post, or any posts that followed it for that matter? If you can't understand how much of a colossal waste of time this item is then you're as deluded as the developers were for introducing it in this way in the first place. Keep going "It boosts skill up rates so it's worth 88M" if you like, it's never going to be true.

If you're a crafter with 25~100M to burn you might as well just skill up instead, if you're a fisher who wants to obtain the cape to level a craft, you might as well just sell the fish to morons to fund crafting. This cape has absolutely no worth and the developers are complete morons for not just adding it to GPs initially. Every crafter with a brain already knows this is worthless, in a few months when nobody even wastes time thinking about this trash, fishers will realize how worthless it was and complain at Matsya being wasted on this item. I'd like to say this is the worst possible way for the developers to have introduced such an item, but I only know that they'd surprise me next update with another equally ridiculous piece of crap.