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    Player Godofgods's Avatar
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    Shaper's Shawl - Why?

    Shaper's Shawl Rare Ex
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    DEF:1 Increases synthesis skill gain rate
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    I'm curious to know what you where thinking when you created this item. More specifically, how to acquire it.

    First real synthesis skill+ equip, and you make it obtainable from the only 'craft' in the game that does not use actual synthesis... 0.o
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    Why?
    Because SE loves awful game design, that's why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Why?
    Because SE love awful game design, that's why.
    I think it has to do with why we even got an increase in the skill cap. The conversation @ SE probably went in favor of not ever boosting it till someone said "what if we boost it, but make it 100x as hard as the first 100 skill to keep people playing?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    Shaper's Shawl Rare Ex
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    DEF:1 Increases synthesis skill gain rate
    LV 1 All Jobs


    I'm curious to know what you where thinking when you created this item. More specifically, how to acquire it.

    First real synthesis skill+ equip, and you make it obtainable from the only 'craft' in the game that does not use actual synthesis... 0.o
    So? It appears to me you totally overlooked the fact that SE added a real synthesis skill gain rate item in the first place...
    Who cares it's found by high level fishing.

    I'd be more upset if it required 110 goldsmithing. I can level fishing, but with my woodworking near-cap I can't level goldsmithing that high. (The shawl would require 70 clothcrafting to make, but a lvl 110 goldsmithing recipe to craft the 'pearl' gutted from the fish into a brooch or something.)

    And it doesn't even matter much either.. crafting is mostly dead barring a few consumables.. It's just a requirement for synergy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    Who cares it's found by high level fishing.
    That's the thing though, it isn't found by high level fishing, it's found by Ebisu fishing and using obnoxiously difficult to obtain exclusive bait. The item in question is also R/E so it's not like you can just let other people fish it up and then buy it off the AH.

    Seriously, do a modicum of research before you casually brush aside legitimate concerns people bring up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    That's the thing though, it isn't found by high level fishing, it's found by Ebisu fishing and using obnoxiously difficult to obtain exclusive bait. The item in question is also R/E so it's not like you can just let other people fish it up and then buy it off the AH.

    Seriously, do a modicum of research before you casually brush aside legitimate concerns people bring up.
    I know what is needed for it.
    I know it's the holy grail (relic) of crafting and therefore should not be available for 50 gil at the nearest fruit stand.
    I know it's not an item I will get in any forseeable future, unless skill up fishing and I finish that lushang already.
    I know that I'll have all my crafts capped long before I obtain this, and it will be a worthless piece of -1 inventory then.

    If anything, I'm disappointed that it doesn't (seem to) boost crafting. No +skill, no -fail, no +hq chance.

    How would YOU have made this shawl available?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    How would YOU have made this shawl available?
    Since its a crafting skill+ piece, how about..... crafting? 0.0

    Or even an nm thats only pop-able through a special crafted items.
    Heck id rather race my two legs versus a chocobo rather then fishing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    Since its a crafting skill+ piece, how about..... crafting? 0.0

    Or even an nm thats only pop-able through a special crafted items.
    Heck id rather race my two legs versus a chocobo rather then fishing...
    It can't be synthesized because then the other crafts are f'ed and forced to pay a fortune.
    And what do NMs have to do with crafting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    How would YOU have made this shawl available?
    I would of given it to Soryu/Sekiryu/Kokuryu instead of Matsuya. (not Hakuryu)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    How would YOU have made this shawl available?
    In new Grounds of Valor areas along with the remaining +2 craft necks, at least then it's open to EVERYBODY and follows a similar style, as it stands it's very poorly done.

    It would have been smarter to make this item have the following stats:

    Shaper's Shawl [Back]
    Def: 1 Increases chance of fishing up large prey.
    That way it's a must have for fishermen who levelled that high already, instead of increasing skill up of crafts of which has no effect on fishing.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Hatcher; 07-28-2012 at 10:54 PM.

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