Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
I've never played ffxi.
At least you acknowledge that pup is a terrible DD job, and don't pretend losing 10% damage to maneuvers is ok. But your justification for pup being good is laughable. We're almost as good as dnc and nin/dnc at evasion soloing, that is not impressive. He'll, I'd put blu up there as on par with pup for evasion solos even. You even admit hate-free damage doesn't matter at all, anywhere, ever, yet pretend it is somehow still making the job good. Notice how often smn is used for their hate free damage? That we can do the part of smn's job that smn never gets used for does not make us good. Pup can't even come close to touching a sch as a healer, or even a pathetic rdm. Go use a job other than pup so you can actually see how poorly pup functions in comparison.

Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
I am a special snowflake and am going to pretend player skill magically makes bad jobs good.
Notice how all you special snowflakes can never make a real argument, but have to resort to pathetic logical fallacies like "you're not a real pup" or "I've played pup longer than you" or "you just suck at pup"? You are not special. Plenty of people like me have played pup just as long as you have, and yet still manage to use our brains and realize the job is still badly in need of being fixed. Just because I am capable of objectively assessing that the job currently sucks, doesn't mean I wasn't around when it sucked even harder.