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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyinghippress View Post
    Were you wearing korin obi and twilight cape with aurorastorm up? I'm assuming so, just want to clarify
    Yes I was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotchio View Post
    Hello,

    I have all the +1 elemental staffs. How do I use them to make the Chatoyant staff?

    Thanks.
    40ish Synergy + 60ish WW


    And stellar... all that work for an Arka IV down the drain! lol. But yay all the same. Now to get me some o' that gear...
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    Last edited by Flyinghippress; 07-26-2012 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khiinroye View Post
    @Merton9999 You didn't include the 10% cure potency on Chatoyant staff. With both nares and iaso, you can have 50% with chatoyant staff, iaso head, heka's, augur's gloves, phalaina locket, and nares trews. NQ on the iaso requires a 2% cure potency augment on zenith pumps to get 50%, or serpentes set instead of augur's / zenith to get 49%.

    Chatoyant staff, heka's, phalaina locket, augur's hands, Tatsumaki Sitagoromo with 5% cure potency augment, augmented zenith pumps for 3% , and selenian cap for 3% yields 44% without nares or iaso.

    Without zenith pumps or selenian cap, you're at 38% (or 39% with serpentes set instead of augur's). 38% with chatoyant staff and weather ties with 50% and weather with Arka IV, assuming twilight cape. Without twilight cape, you gain access to another 4% with oretania's cape, and only need 37.5% potency to tie.

    Chatoyant's damage works like maigan staves, so it is 1.81 vs 1.9 for the ice damage in abyssea calc.
    SCH can't equip zenith gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    So what is the verdict on the Magian magic damage affinity staves? Do I still have to make all 7 of them(there is no way I'm making a staff just for luminohelix/banish)?

    Even if the answer is yes, Chatoyant will save me a good amount of space, since I've been keeping the HQ level 51 staves around just for the extra m.acc. that is missing from the magic damage affinity staves.

    EDIT: As for Sotek's idea that the staff would allow SCH to use one weapon full-time, I had high hopes for the idea, but then I remembered that I have a Kirin's Pole for enhancing magic, which I cast often, regardless of what I'm doing.

    To add to that, I do lots of solo work. It's the only time I get to do much other than spam embrava or magic procs, and in those situations, I can't live without the -20% Physical damage taken from my earth staff.

    Phalanx, Regen V, and Earth/Terra's Staff are a godsend when it comes to keeping me alive in solo situations.
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    Last edited by Eric; 07-27-2012 at 07:12 AM.

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    I only made 4 and I can tell you for sure that I have never needed the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Can I ask which 4? I'm thinking Thunder, Ice, Dark, and what's the last element?

    EDIT: What about obis?
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    I did wind back when they decided half a year was a good amount of time for SCH not to get blizzard5.

    Only obis I have are light/dark/ice/thunder/wind also
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    This staff is great for when macc matters outside that Trail staffs are better

    I will still use Tefnut and Genbu's sheild for curing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantedmc View Post
    Update: Went to abyssea la theine to test

    atmas:
    rescuer: 10% cure pot
    harmony: 10% cure pot (Really gave me 1%, however I was missing phalania locket to cap w/o. Replace this with minikin)
    allure: 30mnd -30enm

    Stats:
    mnd: 199
    vit: 115
    healing skill: 454 ( I have healing magic merits)
    cure pot: 50

    Arka IV:
    cure IV: 1018
    rapture Cure IV: 1624

    Chatoyant:
    Cure IV: 1102
    rapture Cure IV: 1760
    Is this what passes as testing what gear is better now? Make everything equal, but give one set an extra 10% boost? Of course Chatoyant is going to beat Arka IV if you do it that way. A proper Arka IV set lets you trade away some of that cure potency gear for +Skill/MND gear:

    Arka IV
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/266982

    Chatoyant Staff (uses the head slot to reach 50% CP, so you must choose between Savant's Bonnet and Iaso for Rapture)
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/267318

    I'm not saying Chatoyant loses to Arka IV when you do proper set comparisons, it may still win. I'm just saying that you're dishonest with the numbers you've presented. That's rather dangerous when there are people will see it and believe Chatoyant is always better in every situation.

    The other reality is that most people aren't going to have access to delicious items like Iaso Mitra and Nares Trews. A 50% CP set is by far easier to build with Arka IV than Chatoyant.
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    In the year that I was gone, SCH went from a job no one wanted to a job that gets to use their 2-hour and go sit in the corner. I guess that's progress?

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    It was mostly to show the amount of difference in curing you would see, not to show that chatoyant is always better. Everyone can reach 50% cure potency in abyssea / voidwatch without nares and iaso mitra by using atmas or atmacites (You only need 30% in Abyssea and 35% in Voidwatch). Someone has pointed out that 39% cure potency is the magic number on ffxiah where chatoyant pulls ahead. The highest I believe you can naturally attain without paean or iaso mitra is 43% and the highest without nares or mitra is 40% (using selenian cap).
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