Discussion Involving All Pet Jobs

[Rennix]

If drg is a pet job I guess every other job is a pet job cause they can summon an adventuring fellow.

[KorPoni]

If drg is a pet job I guess every other job is a pet job cause they can summon an adventuring fellow.

All jobs can have an adventuring fellow, that takes up a seperate slot from pets. That isn't even a valid comparison.

[Rennix]

All jobs can have an adventuring fellow, that takes up a seperate slot from pets. That isn't even a valid comparison.

lol when the wyvern is about as controlable as the advernturing fellow i think it's a valid argument.

[Dauntless]

If drg is a pet job I guess every other job is a pet job cause they can summon an adventuring fellow.

My word you're dense. Are you aware that DRGs can summon Wyverns AND their adventuring fellows at the same time? Does this make DRG a double pet job? Your logic is incredibly flawed. Please, for your own sake, stop posting.

Thanks.

[Alderin]

Rennix obviously has DRG at lvl 1.

You control your wyvern pre-lvl90 by support jobs - timed casting to trigger healing breath, as well as WS's for elemental.
You have to keep your pet alive, using spirit link.

Not to mention DRG's DoT drastically decreases if you don't have a pet, since your pet does about 1/2 your normal melee damage.

Not to mention all the commands associated with your wyvern are under /pet.

Level your Dragoon beyond 10 and I will begin listening to your opinions on DRG.

[Rennix]

Rennix obviously has DRG at lvl 1.

You control your wyvern pre-lvl90 by support jobs - timed casting to trigger healing breath, as well as WS's for elemental.
You have to keep your pet alive, using spirit link.

Not to mention DRG's DoT drastically decreases if you don't have a pet, since your pet does about 1/2 your normal melee damage.

Not to mention all the commands associated with your wyvern are under /pet.

Level your Dragoon beyond 10 and I will begin listening to your opinions on DRG.

No pet jobs have to use a sub to control their pets, and this is why it falls into more of the catagory of adventuring fellow. You can change their job but you don't really have much control with that they attack and they cant attack on their own. I see the the flying rat more as a glorified adventuring fellow more then a pet you can control freely. My drg is 32 ^,^ so your level 1 argument is kinda mute.

My word you're dense. Are you aware that DRGs can summon Wyverns AND their adventuring fellows at the same time? Does this make DRG a double pet job? Your logic is incredibly flawed. Please, for your own sake, stop posting.

Thanks.

lol you dont see me calling you names, but that's ok I dont get butt hurt when people add thier opions. And no you wouldnt be a double pet job cause drg isnt a pet job to begin with. Honestly in a pet burn pt you dont see drgs. In pet LS you dont see drgs or people shouting for drgs to join them.

Brd can have a pet and a npc and we dont call them a pet job.

[Dauntless]

No pet jobs have to use a sub to control their pets, and this is why it falls into more of the catagory of adventuring fellow. You can change their job but you don't really have much control with that they attack and they cant attack on their own. I see the the flying rat more as a glorified adventuring fellow more then a pet you can control freely. My drg is 32 ^,^ so your level 1 argument is kinda mute.




lol you dont see me calling you names, but that's ok I dont get butt hurt when people add thier opions. And no you wouldnt be a double pet job cause drg isnt a pet job to begin with. Honestly in a pet burn pt you dont see drgs. In pet LS you dont see drgs or people shouting for drgs to join them.

Brd can have a pet and a npc and we dont call them a pet job.

Problem is you're not adding your opinion (I hope. If you are... that's just sad), you're simply trolling.

Please don't assume that you know facts. I'm familiar with PLENTY of pet LS's that recruit DRGs whether it's for high DPS, healing, or temp tanking. Again, none of this would be possible without our Wyverns.

Your argument that DRGs are not pet jobs because we can't control our Wyvern is moot. Adventuring fellows cast buffs/heals of their own accord, we have no control over it. For DRGs we can use smiting or Healing breaths to heal/use an attack whenever we want. Not to mention that our 2hr is completely dependent upon our PET. Please give me a list of jobs who's 2hrs is based upon their adventuring fellows.

Right. There are none.

Keep in mind that our strongest job abilities (Soul and Spirit jumps) are completely contingent upon our wyverns to be decent in effectiveness.

Simply because DRG is COMPLETELY dependent upon their Wyverns does not mean that it isn't a pet job. We control what our Wyverns do whether it's directly (Smiting breath, Healing Breath) or indirectly (Weaponskilling, casting a spell below a certain amount of HP, using Super jump)

[Rennix]

Problem is you're not adding your opinion (I hope. If you are... that's just sad), you're simply trolling.

Please don't assume that you know facts. I'm familiar with PLENTY of pet LS's that recruit DRGs whether it's for high DPS, healing, or temp tanking. Again, none of this would be possible without our Wyverns.

Your argument that DRGs are not pet jobs because we can't control our Wyvern is moot. Adventuring fellows cast buffs/heals of their own accord, we have no control over it. For DRGs we can use smiting or Healing breaths to heal/use an attack whenever we want. Not to mention that our 2hr is completely dependent upon our PET. Please give me a list of jobs who's 2hrs is based upon their adventuring fellows.

Right. There are none.

Keep in mind that our strongest job abilities (Soul and Spirit jumps) are completely contingent upon our wyverns to be decent in effectiveness.

Simply because DRG is COMPLETELY dependent upon their Wyverns does not mean that it isn't a pet job. We control what our Wyverns do whether it's directly (Smiting breath, Healing Breath) or indirectly (Weaponskilling, casting a spell below a certain amount of HP, using Super jump)

By no means am i trolling . Im just throwing my 2 cents out there and backing up what im saying is all, unlike some of these other post here that give no sound counter argumnet and have to resort to belittling the other posters opions or comments with name calling or the "no your wrong and I'm right" with no opion of their own.

So thanks for replying with a sound argument.

Moving on ^^,

As for Pet LS recruiting drgs, that's new to me cause most LS of the type use the throw a pet at the mob till it dies method to kill things, and I dont really see how drg fits into that setup. maybe there is stratagy where a drg can tank somehow but wouldnt a pld or nin be more suited if a tank is absolutly need? Sorry i dont have much experience with drg tanks and i havent seen many tank. Besides if you stagger the pets you dont really need a tank in most cases.

Your second paragraph comes back to my glorified adventuring fellow statement. The drg 2hr doesnt do anything to enhance the pet but yourself unlike smn bst and pup where their 2hr ability enhances their pets. Its more of a Ima eatchu to make me poke harder sort of thing. Soul Jump and Spirit Jump can both be used without the wyvrn present unlike smn bst and pup witch have to have thier pets present to use their abilities. So the wyvrn is there to cheer you on so you hit harder and attack like an adventuring fellow. With the adition of being able to control your breath attacks now is where the glorified is coming from.

So you are not 100% dependent on your flying friend unlike pup bst and smn who with out their pets are pretty much usless. Sure we can poke things with our weapons, not as good as a drg, all our abilities go down the hole, but drgs doesnt. This furthers the fact that its more of an upped Adventuring fellow compared to a pet.

[Zyeriis]

By no means am i trolling . Im just throwing my 2 cents out there and backing up what im saying is all, unlike some of these other post here that give no sound counter argumnet and have to resort to belittling the other posters opions or comments with name calling or the "no your wrong and I'm right" with no opion of their own.

So thanks for replying with a sound argument.

Moving on ^^,

As for Pet LS recruiting drgs, that's new to me cause most LS of the type use the throw a pet at the mob till it dies method to kill things, and I dont really see how drg fits into that setup. maybe there is stratagy where a drg can tank somehow but wouldnt a pld or nin be more suited if a tank is absolutly need? Sorry i dont have much experience with drg tanks and i havent seen many tank. Besides if you stagger the pets you dont really need a tank in most cases.

Your second paragraph comes back to my glorified adventuring fellow statement. The drg 2hr doesnt do anything to enhance the pet but yourself unlike smn bst and pup where their 2hr ability enhances their pets. Its more of a Ima eatchu to make me poke harder sort of thing. Soul Jump and Spirit Jump can both be used without the wyvrn present unlike smn bst and pup witch have to have thier pets present to use their abilities. So the wyvrn is there to cheer you on so you hit harder and attack like an adventuring fellow. With the adition of being able to control your breath attacks now is where the glorified is coming from.

So you are not 100% dependent on your flying friend unlike pup bst and smn who with out their pets are pretty much usless. Sure we can poke things with our weapons, not as good as a drg, all our abilities go down the hole, but drgs doesnt. This furthers the fact that its more of an upped Adventuring fellow compared to a pet.

DRG has the ability to draw hate from a pet that is about to die, or from the beastmaster themselves, giving the beastmaster time to bring out another pet (or whatever), then super jump to remove enmity and have the pet tank again. Paladin cannot do this, nor can ninja.

SMN can be used without it's pet (healing), in other roles in the same sense that Dragoon can be used in other roles, with it's pet. That argument is relatively moot.

The argument revolving around bsts/smns/pups enhancing their pets through their 2hr versus the pet enhancing the drg through it's 2 hour is like arguing that heads and tails aren't both part of a quarter.

[Rennix]

DRG has the ability to draw hate from a pet that is about to die, or from the beastmaster themselves, giving the beastmaster time to bring out another pet (or whatever), then super jump to remove enmity and have the pet tank again. Paladin cannot do this, nor can ninja.

SMN can be used without it's pet (healing), in other roles in the same sense that Dragoon can be used in other roles, with it's pet. That argument is relatively moot.

The argument revolving around bsts/smns/pups enhancing their pets through their 2hr versus the pet enhancing the drg through it's 2 hour is like arguing that heads and tails aren't both part of a quarter.

war thf dnc all have the ability to draw hate. Doesnt make them a pet job.

Smn can only heal because of ist sub job unlike drg witch still has the use of its abilties even without a sub

Still the drgs 2hr doesnt do anything to help their pet. Your heads and tales argument doesnt stand really just because they ocupy the same space doesnt mean they are the same. You can make your son and daughter share the same room, but one is a boy the other a girl. Thus heads is heads and tales is tales, if they were the same everyone would win on a coin flip.