Discussion Involving All Pet Jobs

[Alderin]

No 25% haste cap, what? When did they remove that? (Quit the game 8 months ago)

Haste cap is still in effect. 25.6% Always has been and always will be.

*edit* That is of course gear cap. Atmas / Magic etc have their own cap.

[Rocman]

I would like to see better gear for pup. It is crazy that pup gear is the same as mages gear.

[RAIST]

Blood pact timer should be re-evaluated and whether or not it should remain capped at -15 recast. Don't know why this cap exists in the first place and in my opinion it's just detrimental to smn at this stage in the game. Should at least be lowered.

Guess it was to constrict the damage output...but considering I can spam WS on some jobs every 35 seconds now even when not tanking, it's kind of lost it's merit. Barring the haters that are just gonna hate, down to 30 or 40 seconds should be agreeable at this point in the game.

Raist

[KorPoni]

I'm glad I got alot of people talking. I'll agree PUP needs to step out from under the shadow of mage gear. I wish I could say whether or not I agree with SMN blood pact limits. I've not yet gotten the job past a level to get gear to drop blood pact recast.

Harmless wrote:
I would have to agree that DRG is definitely a pet job, just in a different way. Although DRG is a very capable DD, by simply changing your subjob you can completely change the way you play the job. I remember back when the level cap was 75 (before abyssea and endless mp via atma ect..) using DRG as a supportive and sometimes main healer. One example that I distinctly remember was main healing PLD's while fighting Faust in Sky. With Ares's Cuirass or any other form off Refresh and a decent Healing Breath build DRG is imo one of the most mp and enmity efficient healers bar none. Another example that we often used DRGs for was Dynamis. I recall many times after a bad pull in Dynamis seeing the party with the DRG as the last standing. Of course, like all pet jobs (just ask PUPs pre- Dues Ex Automata) AOE spamming mobs can ruin your day in a hurry.

Just my 2 cents here but although a DRG without a pet can do quite well in the DD department, it couldn't do any of the above listed things without it.

Thanks for clarifying this.

[jeffanddane]

Tsukino lolol shush your mouth >.> Its a pet job DRG's before abyssea soloed colobris and anything flying alot . . . . . its a pet job. . . .. Wyvern is a PET that assists you which makes DRG a PET job lol/ Nit o dp gpt tp agree with you that DRG is no where near the bottom of DD i see them in abyssea MESSIN SHIZAT UP!!!!!!!

[Rocman]

drg/blu was the best solo in the game!

[Rocman]

I would like to see better pup gear, I would like to see more automation attachment, whm auto should be able to cast protect, haste, ect. It has regen so why not other buffs? Also a better self SC with the rng auto would be nice also.

[Xilk]

I would like to see better pup gear, I would like to see more automation attachment, whm auto should be able to cast protect, haste, ect. It has regen so why not other buffs? Also a better self SC with the rng auto would be nice also.

Agreed, automaton attachments really gives puppetmaster an alternative to pet+ gear. The auto already has its own gear.. I don't see why they haven't added any new ones. pup and master can be pretty well balanced though.

DRG the emphasis is on the master w/ mostly support from the pet.

SMN the emphasis is so much on the pet I would expect all gear to augment the pet.

BST is probably where the contrast is most pronounced. both share the melee role quite equally.... the gear adds pet+ or main+ if you try to boost pet, you are usually foregoing several pieces that boost the master much more.

[Rocman]

Agreed, automaton attachments really gives puppetmaster an alternative to pet+ gear. The auto already has its own gear.. I don't see why they haven't added any new ones. pup and master can be pretty well balanced though.

DRG the emphasis is on the master w/ mostly support from the pet.

SMN the emphasis is so much on the pet I would expect all gear to augment the pet.

BST is probably where the contrast is most pronounced. both share the melee role quite equally.... the gear adds pet+ or main+ if you try to boost pet, you are usually foregoing several pieces that boost the master much more.

well said....

[Xilk]

Wow, i can't believe the pet community would troll on DRG. Thats pretty shocking to me. Of course its a pet job. What a ridiculous notion that it is not.
DRG doesn't fit into a pet-centric setup as well as the other pet jobs for party balance, because it does not share hate nearly as much as the other 3 pet jobs. It does so much of its damage on the main, that its going to take hate. If you are in an all pet party and there is a drg... the drg is tanking and you'll probably need some healing from another source... be it automaton, lulush, or a few more /mage. This talk makes me want to brush of my drg a little. I haven't seen Drg in Abyssea at all... Its fun to play, but my lowest level pet job....

Regarding the limit of only having 1 pet... I think the NPC fellows show that this could easily be changed. it looks like 2 pets when I have pet out and NPC fellow out at the same time. I think auto/mob/avatar/wyvern just all fill the same slot. NPC fellow shows that another slot exists and could exist. ironically, the magian trial log seems to occupy the same slot as the NPC fellow.

The only gear I can think of that goes to all the pet jobs exclusively are the herder's subligar and breeder's set (although I think only 1x french smn ever got that set).