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    Player Dauntless's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    DRG has never been mediocre DD. And why are you soloing on it, do you solo on WAR too? lol
    I sincerely hope you're joking about that entire statement.
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    RIP Shadowix 75 DRG-WAR-DRK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    I sincerely hope you're joking about that entire statement.
    I have always done top tier dmg on DRG regardless of it's update state. And yes, pre drakesbane even.
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    Blood pact timer should be re-evaluated and whether or not it should remain capped at -15 recast. Don't know why this cap exists in the first place and in my opinion it's just detrimental to smn at this stage in the game. Should at least be lowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Blood pact timer should be re-evaluated and whether or not it should remain capped at -15 recast. Don't know why this cap exists in the first place and in my opinion it's just detrimental to smn at this stage in the game. Should at least be lowered.
    I had no idea it capped. Good thing I only have -10. lol
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    I would like to see better gear for pup. It is crazy that pup gear is the same as mages gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Blood pact timer should be re-evaluated and whether or not it should remain capped at -15 recast. Don't know why this cap exists in the first place and in my opinion it's just detrimental to smn at this stage in the game. Should at least be lowered.

    Guess it was to constrict the damage output...but considering I can spam WS on some jobs every 35 seconds now even when not tanking, it's kind of lost it's merit. Barring the haters that are just gonna hate, down to 30 or 40 seconds should be agreeable at this point in the game.

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    Last edited by RAIST; 03-18-2011 at 01:19 PM. Reason: forgot quote
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    I would have to agree that DRG is definitely a pet job, just in a different way. Although DRG is a very capable DD, by simply changing your subjob you can completely change the way you play the job. I remember back when the level cap was 75 (before abyssea and endless mp via atma ect..) using DRG as a supportive and sometimes main healer. One example that I distinctly remember was main healing PLD's while fighting Faust in Sky. With Ares's Cuirass or any other form off Refresh and a decent Healing Breath build DRG is imo one of the most mp and enmity efficient healers bar none. Another example that we often used DRGs for was Dynamis. I recall many times after a bad pull in Dynamis seeing the party with the DRG as the last standing. Of course, like all pet jobs (just ask PUPs pre- Dues Ex Automata) AOE spamming mobs can ruin your day in a hurry.

    Just my 2 cents here but although a DRG without a pet can do quite well in the DD department, it couldn't do any of the above listed things without it.
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    Player Dauntless's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    I have always done top tier dmg on DRG regardless of it's update state. And yes, pre drakesbane even.
    So you're a DRG and you have never heard of DRG soloing? Well I imagine this might contribute to your belief that DRG isn't a pet job. We are completely reliant on our Wyverns to solo anything beyond the most basic of monsters.

    That statement leaves alot of room for question. Is DRG capable of being a top-tier DD? Yes, however again, without our Wyverns our parsed damage is dramatically decreased.
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    RIP Shadowix 75 DRG-WAR-DRK

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    I'm glad I got alot of people talking. I'll agree PUP needs to step out from under the shadow of mage gear. I wish I could say whether or not I agree with SMN blood pact limits. I've not yet gotten the job past a level to get gear to drop blood pact recast.

    Harmless wrote:
    I would have to agree that DRG is definitely a pet job, just in a different way. Although DRG is a very capable DD, by simply changing your subjob you can completely change the way you play the job. I remember back when the level cap was 75 (before abyssea and endless mp via atma ect..) using DRG as a supportive and sometimes main healer. One example that I distinctly remember was main healing PLD's while fighting Faust in Sky. With Ares's Cuirass or any other form off Refresh and a decent Healing Breath build DRG is imo one of the most mp and enmity efficient healers bar none. Another example that we often used DRGs for was Dynamis. I recall many times after a bad pull in Dynamis seeing the party with the DRG as the last standing. Of course, like all pet jobs (just ask PUPs pre- Dues Ex Automata) AOE spamming mobs can ruin your day in a hurry.

    Just my 2 cents here but although a DRG without a pet can do quite well in the DD department, it couldn't do any of the above listed things without it.
    Thanks for clarifying this.
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    I like playing dnc. But, as galka, they should have natural earth damage to most dnc abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    I sincerely hope you're joking about that entire statement.
    Baww it wasn't FoTM at the time so I didn't play it.
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