BST nerf please

[Aldersyde]

bottom line is BST is a skillless job, all jobs should require gear and skill, current BSTs need only call a pet and reward spam, 2 things which is pretty derp. All im asking for is for BST to be nerfed to the point where cant do much by slobbing it up with fail gear and just throw money at NMs and stuff. Every job should have to be worked on, if you are a BST99 and actually leveled it/geared it as your pride then my beefs not with you. Its the gimp bandwagon BSTs that need to be knocked down a few pegs.

I could say the same thing about cor. You can play cor by throwing money into the dice and then stand there naked pressing a macro for two rolls over and over again. No skill involved in the effectiveness of the buffs. However, playing that way doesn't mean you're playing the job right. Same applies to bst. There's nothing in the rules that says you can't be a lazy twit.

[Smeggles]

bottom line is BST is a skillless job, all jobs should require gear and skill, current BSTs need only call a pet and reward spam, 2 things which is pretty derp. All im asking for is for BST to be nerfed to the point where cant do much by slobbing it up with fail gear and just throw money at NMs and stuff. Every job should have to be worked on, if you are a BST99 and actually leveled it/geared it as your pride then my beefs not with you. Its the gimp bandwagon BSTs that need to be knocked down a few pegs.

If it's that simple go and do it. I have just recently levelled BST cause its fun to play (its still easier to solo stuff and farm dynamis on my THF)

You will see that jug pets fall over on their faces if you don't have the right gear. You will also find your pet bisciuts won't put a dent in the incoming damage without a good reward set.

Quite frankly you are a moron.

[SNK]

bottom line is BST is a skillless job, all jobs should require gear and skill, current BSTs need only call a pet and reward spam, 2 things which is pretty derp. All im asking for is for BST to be nerfed to the point where cant do much by slobbing it up with fail gear and just throw money at NMs and stuff. Every job should have to be worked on, if you are a BST99 and actually leveled it/geared it as your pride then my beefs not with you. Its the gimp bandwagon BSTs that need to be knocked down a few pegs.

You are such a troll. lol

[Calamity]

bottom line is BST is a skillless job, all jobs should require gear and skill, current BSTs need only call a pet and reward spam, 2 things which is pretty derp. All im asking for is for BST to be nerfed to the point where cant do much by slobbing it up with fail gear and just throw money at NMs and stuff. Every job should have to be worked on, if you are a BST99 and actually leveled it/geared it as your pride then my beefs not with you. Its the gimp bandwagon BSTs that need to be knocked down a few pegs.

Then answer me how you could actually punish the bandwagon bsts without hurting the true bsts along with them?

Furthermore, calling it a skillless job is over harsh. The bsts you speak of play the bare minimum of the job's potential, which I admit, is higher than most job's bare minimum potential. There is skill that goes into the job and any bst who's actually taken the time to build their bst up into something great can show you the difference.

[BuddyD]

Only thing I think needs nerfed for BST is its abilities in Dyna, for instance, 3~5 mobs should always = death, not = easy.

To say that is to say nerf all jobs. I can take on 5-6 mobs in dyna on PLD, NIN, THF,BLU, SAM even on WAR if I sub DNC. As Camiie said, if you feel intimidated by BST solo compared to your fav. job then instead of bashing BSTs and asking for Nerfs, ask for buffs on your own job or find a different job.

[Demon6324236]

I moved away from talking about Dynamis at all for that reason and instead focused on the reason the entire thread seems to have been presented. The idea originally seemed to be about a naked leeched BST still being somewhat powerful. Many people have said in here they geared BST and have no want for a nerf, but thats the thing, they geared it, those who do not should be weak and worthless, not strong enough to solo anything outside of stupidly weak mobs. As I said before, a lv99 any job with 0 skill, who has never fought, will have no chance against anything really. BST however is different, the same conditions onto it but with the addition of a single jug and a few items for reward and you can fight.

People keep coming back here and talking about how their geared BST shouldn't be nerfed, how it should be stronger if anything, but they are not getting the point. My target is not all BST, simply gimped BSTs, those who care nothing about their gear, or their skill, simply letting the pet whos already strong by itself do all of the work instead. Complain at me that I'm wrong, tell me I'm stupid, do whatever, I honestly don't care anymore because its just getting on my nerves. A simply way to say it is that your misunderstanding what I'm saying, and so I'm just going to leave it alone. Natenn is seeming to say much the same I am, so I suppose I'm a troll, cool, guess thats what I get for asking for balance & attempting to explain my opinion.

[Natenn]

I moved away from talking about Dynamis at all for that reason and instead focused on the reason the entire thread seems to have been presented. The idea originally seemed to be about a naked leeched BST still being somewhat powerful. Many people have said in here they geared BST and have no want for a nerf, but thats the thing, they geared it, those who do not should be weak and worthless, not strong enough to solo anything outside of stupidly weak mobs. As I said before, a lv99 any job with 0 skill, who has never fought, will have no chance against anything really. BST however is different, the same conditions onto it but with the addition of a single jug and a few items for reward and you can fight.

People keep coming back here and talking about how their geared BST shouldn't be nerfed, how it should be stronger if anything, but they are not getting the point. My target is not all BST, simply gimped BSTs, those who care nothing about their gear, or their skill, simply letting the pet whos already strong by itself do all of the work instead. Complain at me that I'm wrong, tell me I'm stupid, do whatever, I honestly don't care anymore because its just getting on my nerves. A simply way to say it is that your misunderstanding what I'm saying, and so I'm just going to leave it alone. Natenn is seeming to say much the same I am, so I suppose I'm a troll, cool, guess thats what I get for asking for balance & attempting to explain my opinion.

exactly, idc what geared career bsts do but bandwagon gimps crutching on an OP pet is fail.

[Luvbunny]

exactly, idc what geared career bsts do but bandwagon gimps crutching on an OP pet is fail.

Are you two that dumb or just plain ignorant, a naked summoner with 0 level magic skills can still do something somewhat similar - the pet they summon is lvl 99, has same hp, and the same strength as fully skilled up summoner. The only main difference is the buffs of 0 skill summoner will not last long or as effective. And the BP damage may be more miss than hit but not 0 damage. BST has to merit so that their jug pets can be strong at 99. Your main beef is that many people do bandwagon beast, because the job is the most bang for your buck when it comes to farming and playing solo. GET OVER IT already, always have and will be. It's an ok job, many other jobs are still much better suited for VIP events than beast master. And stop acting so high and mighty just because you "skilled up" your jobs... get off your high horse for once. If these bandwagon beast wants to be gimpatastic and only use the job for dyna farm or bcnm farm, which lets be HONEST here, this is your main jealousy factor, then so be it. Beast is efficient for dyna farm but it is not the only job that can be just as efficient or more.

[Calamity]

I moved away from talking about Dynamis at all for that reason and instead focused on the reason the entire thread seems to have been presented. The idea originally seemed to be about a naked leeched BST still being somewhat powerful. Many people have said in here they geared BST and have no want for a nerf, but thats the thing, they geared it, those who do not should be weak and worthless, not strong enough to solo anything outside of stupidly weak mobs. As I said before, a lv99 any job with 0 skill, who has never fought, will have no chance against anything really. BST however is different, the same conditions onto it but with the addition of a single jug and a few items for reward and you can fight.

People keep coming back here and talking about how their geared BST shouldn't be nerfed, how it should be stronger if anything, but they are not getting the point. My target is not all BST, simply gimped BSTs, those who care nothing about their gear, or their skill, simply letting the pet whos already strong by itself do all of the work instead. Complain at me that I'm wrong, tell me I'm stupid, do whatever, I honestly don't care anymore because its just getting on my nerves. A simply way to say it is that your misunderstanding what I'm saying, and so I'm just going to leave it alone. Natenn is seeming to say much the same I am, so I suppose I'm a troll, cool, guess thats what I get for asking for balance & attempting to explain my opinion.

And I ask the same question I asked before. How would either of you propose to gimp the bandwagon bsts without taking the career bsts down with them? Doesn't seem that easy to me, but idk, maybe there's something I haven't thought of. The bst bandwagon annoyed me as much as it does you, but not to the point where I'm willing to gimp myself to fight it.

Edit: To be clear, this is why the career bsts are chiming in. It feels like an attack on bst can only affect us all. Give me a real solution that could only affect the bandwagon bsts and I'll shut up and give my support.

[Komori]

People still don't also seem to grasp is you can't affect the strength of the pet because it is essentially a JA. And none of the JA ingame are related to skill level.

To gimp bandwagon BSTs would be to relate very JA ingame to a skill somehow which probably isn't possible.