BST nerf please

[Demon6324236]

I moved away from talking about Dynamis at all for that reason and instead focused on the reason the entire thread seems to have been presented. The idea originally seemed to be about a naked leeched BST still being somewhat powerful. Many people have said in here they geared BST and have no want for a nerf, but thats the thing, they geared it, those who do not should be weak and worthless, not strong enough to solo anything outside of stupidly weak mobs. As I said before, a lv99 any job with 0 skill, who has never fought, will have no chance against anything really. BST however is different, the same conditions onto it but with the addition of a single jug and a few items for reward and you can fight.

People keep coming back here and talking about how their geared BST shouldn't be nerfed, how it should be stronger if anything, but they are not getting the point. My target is not all BST, simply gimped BSTs, those who care nothing about their gear, or their skill, simply letting the pet whos already strong by itself do all of the work instead. Complain at me that I'm wrong, tell me I'm stupid, do whatever, I honestly don't care anymore because its just getting on my nerves. A simply way to say it is that your misunderstanding what I'm saying, and so I'm just going to leave it alone. Natenn is seeming to say much the same I am, so I suppose I'm a troll, cool, guess thats what I get for asking for balance & attempting to explain my opinion.

[Natenn]

I moved away from talking about Dynamis at all for that reason and instead focused on the reason the entire thread seems to have been presented. The idea originally seemed to be about a naked leeched BST still being somewhat powerful. Many people have said in here they geared BST and have no want for a nerf, but thats the thing, they geared it, those who do not should be weak and worthless, not strong enough to solo anything outside of stupidly weak mobs. As I said before, a lv99 any job with 0 skill, who has never fought, will have no chance against anything really. BST however is different, the same conditions onto it but with the addition of a single jug and a few items for reward and you can fight.

People keep coming back here and talking about how their geared BST shouldn't be nerfed, how it should be stronger if anything, but they are not getting the point. My target is not all BST, simply gimped BSTs, those who care nothing about their gear, or their skill, simply letting the pet whos already strong by itself do all of the work instead. Complain at me that I'm wrong, tell me I'm stupid, do whatever, I honestly don't care anymore because its just getting on my nerves. A simply way to say it is that your misunderstanding what I'm saying, and so I'm just going to leave it alone. Natenn is seeming to say much the same I am, so I suppose I'm a troll, cool, guess thats what I get for asking for balance & attempting to explain my opinion.

exactly, idc what geared career bsts do but bandwagon gimps crutching on an OP pet is fail.

[Luvbunny]

exactly, idc what geared career bsts do but bandwagon gimps crutching on an OP pet is fail.

Are you two that dumb or just plain ignorant, a naked summoner with 0 level magic skills can still do something somewhat similar - the pet they summon is lvl 99, has same hp, and the same strength as fully skilled up summoner. The only main difference is the buffs of 0 skill summoner will not last long or as effective. And the BP damage may be more miss than hit but not 0 damage. BST has to merit so that their jug pets can be strong at 99. Your main beef is that many people do bandwagon beast, because the job is the most bang for your buck when it comes to farming and playing solo. GET OVER IT already, always have and will be. It's an ok job, many other jobs are still much better suited for VIP events than beast master. And stop acting so high and mighty just because you "skilled up" your jobs... get off your high horse for once. If these bandwagon beast wants to be gimpatastic and only use the job for dyna farm or bcnm farm, which lets be HONEST here, this is your main jealousy factor, then so be it. Beast is efficient for dyna farm but it is not the only job that can be just as efficient or more.

[SNK]

exactly, idc what geared career bsts do but bandwagon gimps crutching on an OP pet is fail.

Man the fumes of your trollness are just getting me high dude....

[Camiie]

exactly, idk what geared career bsts do but bandwagon gimps crutching on an OP pet is fail.

Fixed that for you. You have ZERO idea what you're talking about. You don't know what BSTs do, you don't know how the job works. Some BST in white or pink gear (you did know BST can wear Aurore too right? No? Figures) kept you from doing something you felt entitled to do, and now you want to take us all out back and beat us with a nerf bat.

[Aldersyde]

exactly, idc what geared career bsts do but bandwagon gimps crutching on an OP pet is fail.

I regularly strip hate from my pet, in and outside Abyssea. Of course, I know how to build a tp set based on 25% (26%) haste, double and triple attack, and attack+, and actually eat meat. I focus on dding and use snarl to make my pet the meat shield or evasion tank. I use aoe pet tp moves on links to force mobs to hit my pet instead of me. I focus on tping and hitting ruinator, because even though pets have high damage melee hits, most ready moves are just laughable in terms of damage.

I act as dd and healer, my pet acts as the tank. I don't know what other people do, but that's how i do things. This is, of course, on mobs that don't do dangerous tp moves. On those mobs, I switch to a complete full pet haste and pdt- set and focus on keeping the pet alive at all costs.

There's a lot more to bst than using call beast, attack and reward.

[Calamity]

I moved away from talking about Dynamis at all for that reason and instead focused on the reason the entire thread seems to have been presented. The idea originally seemed to be about a naked leeched BST still being somewhat powerful. Many people have said in here they geared BST and have no want for a nerf, but thats the thing, they geared it, those who do not should be weak and worthless, not strong enough to solo anything outside of stupidly weak mobs. As I said before, a lv99 any job with 0 skill, who has never fought, will have no chance against anything really. BST however is different, the same conditions onto it but with the addition of a single jug and a few items for reward and you can fight.

People keep coming back here and talking about how their geared BST shouldn't be nerfed, how it should be stronger if anything, but they are not getting the point. My target is not all BST, simply gimped BSTs, those who care nothing about their gear, or their skill, simply letting the pet whos already strong by itself do all of the work instead. Complain at me that I'm wrong, tell me I'm stupid, do whatever, I honestly don't care anymore because its just getting on my nerves. A simply way to say it is that your misunderstanding what I'm saying, and so I'm just going to leave it alone. Natenn is seeming to say much the same I am, so I suppose I'm a troll, cool, guess thats what I get for asking for balance & attempting to explain my opinion.

And I ask the same question I asked before. How would either of you propose to gimp the bandwagon bsts without taking the career bsts down with them? Doesn't seem that easy to me, but idk, maybe there's something I haven't thought of. The bst bandwagon annoyed me as much as it does you, but not to the point where I'm willing to gimp myself to fight it.

Edit: To be clear, this is why the career bsts are chiming in. It feels like an attack on bst can only affect us all. Give me a real solution that could only affect the bandwagon bsts and I'll shut up and give my support.

[Aldersyde]

I moved away from talking about Dynamis at all for that reason and instead focused on the reason the entire thread seems to have been presented. The idea originally seemed to be about a naked leeched BST still being somewhat powerful. Many people have said in here they geared BST and have no want for a nerf, but thats the thing, they geared it, those who do not should be weak and worthless, not strong enough to solo anything outside of stupidly weak mobs. As I said before, a lv99 any job with 0 skill, who has never fought, will have no chance against anything really. BST however is different, the same conditions onto it but with the addition of a single jug and a few items for reward and you can fight.

People keep coming back here and talking about how their geared BST shouldn't be nerfed, how it should be stronger if anything, but they are not getting the point. My target is not all BST, simply gimped BSTs, those who care nothing about their gear, or their skill, simply letting the pet whos already strong by itself do all of the work instead. Complain at me that I'm wrong, tell me I'm stupid, do whatever, I honestly don't care anymore because its just getting on my nerves. A simply way to say it is that your misunderstanding what I'm saying, and so I'm just going to leave it alone. Natenn is seeming to say much the same I am, so I suppose I'm a troll, cool, guess thats what I get for asking for balance & attempting to explain my opinion.

Career bsts are chiming in and jumping on your back because they recognize that there is no way to fix the issue you seem to have without stomping on the job as a whole. There are three ways to adjust the the strength of the pet:

1. Weaken all the attributes and lower the hp of the pet across the board. That screws every bst.

2. Make the strength of the pet dependent on skill on a job that has not previously had such a system. There are two choices for SE here, because they are not going to apply a "fix" differentially based how long a player has had bst 99 or whether they have good gear. SE doesn't have time to do that and it's a waste of monetary resources They can either give every bst skill based on their level or they can make everyone grind up from zero. First case scenario doesn't solve your "problem". The second scenario screws every bst because they have to grind up skill from zero.

3. Make the strength of jug pet gear dependent. Guess what? There's no system in place based on this premise atm. SE either has to give each player who leveled bst the gear (unlikely) or make every bst gather the gear (ding!). Guess what? You see where this going...it screws every bst. Everyone has to work to bring their pets up to a certain level of performance, whether they were "gimp" or not.

There's no way to to fix the balance problem you see without making every bst suffer.