BST nerf please

[Luvbunny]

OK you choose the hard mode, which is YOUR choice, so be happy for it. Other people choose the easy mode, which is THEIR choice, so get used to it. Hey if you want to feel like you earn it, by all means, do it. This game is nothing but grind grind grind grind grind and more grind. Smart people take advantage of short cut and avoid the grind trap. Why bother taking the long hard road when an easy way out is presenting itself. I got 2/3 of my black belt items this way, with beast master and summoner, but go with normal set up on turtle and still yet getting that items. Being able to low man the bcnm is PRICELESS!!!

[Alikhat]

The problem with attaching some kind of skill level requirements to the job is that it would only be a temporary set back. It may deter a few less-than-bothered players from taking up the job but it's not that difficult to get it up if you really wanted to. And considering that BST is as powerful as it is, the rewards for players that take it up would probably see them through it. The only reason I'd like to see such a requirement is to even out the playing field with the other jobs that have to push through that set back.

Other people like me, look at the cheatcode and ignore it, we want to earn our stuff and have a challenge. My Excalibur for example, sure I could go out and do BST, make more AC, have it all easy and fly through it, instead I do it the right way, I do it on my RDM. Its challenging, its fun, its geared well and that shows while I play it and make it though my fights.

This is why I play the game. I mostly do things with my partner and a mutual friend, and occasionally do things with PUGs/linkshells, though I do often like to solo too. I couldn't care less that someone decided to level BST to farm their empy or relic weapon because it was the easy option (sometimes, even I like to take the easy option from time to time). If that makes them feel like a decent player then more power to them. It doesn't affect me in the slightest. My own personal experiences are what makes me the type of player I am and that's where I get my enjoyment in this game. And to be quite honest, these players only copy and do what others before them have long since achieved. They'd fall over backwards if they tried anything original or remotely difficult (as far as that word can be applied to the game, before someone goes on the "this game isn't hard" rant).

The only thing that annoys me is the arrogance of these players who feel like they are above everyone else and can't seem to grasp the concept of common decency. But that's a player base issue, not an issue caused by the job itself. I've even stopped feeling threatened by a BST in the dyna camp I am in, simpy because I make use of less favourable camps or move to decent challenge mobs. It made me laugh a little when I realised that most of the BSTs in the zone don't actually use them because they're probably unsuccessful there.

I do agree that some of the jug pets I've seen are a little overpowered with regards to individual hits (seeing Falcorr hit for 250-300 a swing and having triple attack, is a little silly sometimes) but I can chew through EP/DC in dyna faster than most of the BSTs realise what day it is and when you weigh things up they do have a cost and it's only really decent BSTs that are capable of doing more than what you commonly see (bar Abyssea related content but that's incomparable in my opinion). Of course, I do dynamis on THF mostly, or BLU which really is strong against trash mobs (and with some decent MP management/choosing mobs appropriately can go all night without struggle). I could see an issue if you were comparing RDM DD with a jug pet.

Considering that BST is pretty useless in anything that matters, it's hard not to sympathise with the job itself, it should be left to be at least good at what it can do (even if 5k HP for a pet is a bit silly). If anything, I'd prefer to see a bit more balancing between the jugs themselves. I find it sad that there's such a repertoire of available pets to choose from but only a select few ever get used, especially once you hit 99. It really shows how bad SE is at making, and keeping, things relevant.

Do feel free to /slap arrogant individuals who don't understand playing nicely, though. Because that really is the biggest problem with players of the job.

[Natenn]

OK you choose the hard mode, which is YOUR choice, so be happy for it. Other people choose the easy mode, which is THEIR choice, so get used to it. Hey if you want to feel like you earn it, by all means, do it. This game is nothing but grind grind grind grind grind and more grind. Smart people take advantage of short cut and avoid the grind trap. Why bother taking the long hard road when an easy way out is presenting itself. I got 2/3 of my black belt items this way, with beast master and summoner, but go with normal set up on turtle and still yet getting that items. Being able to low man the bcnm is PRICELESS!!!

What you deem hard mode is actually having common sense and basic knowledge of how to gear/play jobs. This easy mode you speak of is what i call being a slob, cause thats what most BSTs i see are: slobs. 5/5 Perle and talk a big game bc of OP pet.