BST nerf please

[Luvbunny]

Seems like the point is you are just jealous that beast master can have a really good jug pets and pet food and be able to play the game just fine and have a lot of fun without having to do much works on most anything else should they choose to. This is called giving options for any players who have different play style, period. Some may see the game as nothing but fun escapism and do not care about pride or whatever perfecting crap of a pixelated time waster. They just want to get to 99 be forever gimped but still be able to just log and play and have fun. SE is catering to many different type of gamers which is amazing change in comparison, no need to get butt hurt jealous - its just a game. Either level beast master or just do other things that suits your play style.

[Demon6324236]

Jealousy has nothing to do with an unbalanced job.

[Luvbunny]

Yeah this is like thief complaining why Dancer can do self skill chain and Red Mage complaining that Blue Mage is actually the real deal when it comes to melee mage job. Neither are valid argument since each jobs is just that, DIFFERENT. Or how White Mage can do a much better healing compared to Scholar and Red Mage. If you want to play a job where your pet is the main deal, you can be butt naked and still can do the job, play beast master, that is what the job designed for, to play as the master of a beast, using jug pet to take the brunt of the damage and doing pretty much the job. It is not perfect, and it is one dimensional but hey, it works for a lot of people. If you want the master to deal a lot of the damage then play Dragoon, if you want a more balanced pet jobs, there is Puppetmaster, and if you so inclined to play the bastard child of the pet jobs, then Summoner is for you.

You are all complaining that Beastmaster jug pet is over powered... if you take this one out of the equation then you have a gimped dragoon that is neither this or that, worse job than puppet master, and not even as useful as Summoner when it comes to buffing abilities. This is what the Beastmaster job is about, it is designed to be played this way, using jug pets. You should be grateful that SE will not let Beastmaster self skill chain with its jug pets like how Pup can do massive damage with a puppet who has unlimited MP and pretty much buff you into oblivion. You also should rejoice that they will not let pet to buff the entire party like how Summoner Avatar can do this at ease, even they can self skill chain with their avatars. Be happy that Beastmaster strength lies on the jug pet, and as usual a good player will make the master deal massive damage with perfect gears and weapon. At least a perfectly geared Warrior still triumph over Beastmaster when it comes to Axe damage. God forbid next you gonna start calling out for Puppetmaster nerf since that job right now after the updates are quite nifty as you can see with the recent discovery of pup sub... Yeah go figure!!

Would you rather have beast master able to charm mobs again?? Would you? And rule dynamis with charmed mob, and pretty much wreak havoc in abysea if they can charm. They are stuck with jug pets, forever.... and have to pay through the roof for the good jug pets and pet food.

[solodragon1984]

Would you rather have beast master able to charm mobs again?? Would you? And rule dynamis with charmed mob, and pretty much wreak havoc in abysea if they can charm. They are stuck with jug pets, forever.... and have to pay through the roof for the good jug pets and pet food.

the answer is yep cause i'm guessing he's a crafter of the jug pets and want to be broke oops.. if they nerf bst he'll be broke after spending all his gil on FC,CWs

[Demon6324236]

Whatever your just going to keep saying that somehow a pet being super powerful and strong without any need for the master to do anything is fair, and its honestly very wrong to every other job. All jobs have at least skill ups to get stronger, puppetmaster has skills for its automaton, dragoon "levels up" its Wyvern, and SMN skills up summoning magic. BST simply pops a pet, at most it has to wear AF2 hands because they help its level, thats the most they possibly have to do for it to be stronger.

Your telling me this sounds balanced? You need to reevaluate what your sense of balance in a game is, because this is far from it. I don't want all jobs to be the same, or do the same things, I want them to take effort. No job should be able to go 1~99 without effort then do whatever they want shortly after without much (if any) work. Appealing to more players? That sounds nice, but the others who don't need that kind of hand out abuse it just as much and it makes things far to easy.

[solodragon1984]

You need to reevaluate what your sense of balance in a game is,

like it is underlined THIS IS A GAME soo stop complaining people about BST being over powered and needs be nerf or W/E this is ONLY AN GAME SO HUSH UP!!

[Luvbunny]

From the sound of your posting, jealousy is rather evident lol. Saying that one can level 1-99 without doing nary anything is total BS, most people do at least something. The fact that the jug pets are quite powerful, well that is the strength of the job, by taking away Beastmaster charm ability in all the new contents, SE is giving them a jug pets replacement that is quite good and well worth the effort for crafters to supply the demand. Otherwise all the beast master will come with craptastic jug pets, and they will ask for the master to be powered up to the level of Dragoon or Warrior when it comes to melee skills, sorry not gonna work, if you want that go play Dragoon or Warrior. Each jobs has its strength and weaknesses, good players know how to take advantage of this. Many other jobs such as Puppetmaster and Blue Mage are over powered as well on certain events, lets not name them in case you get jealous over those jobs as well. Even Summoner can do what the Beastmaster cannot, with pretty much unlimited avatar to resummon less than 1 minute, not a 5 minute timers, and can tank when it comes to NMs with matching elements. Between dawn mulsum and BP ward they can also perform similar duties. Basically you can exploit game mechanic, people do this all the time. Each jobs has their own strength, beast master just happen to be THE jug pets, which is quite strong. Don't blame the way the jobs is designed because a bunch of people took advantage of it and run around with gimped gears. Blame the players for realizing how to utilize the strength of the job and run away with it.

[Demon6324236]

SMN=Level skills, acquiring gear, summon pet, keep MP up, watch it kill.
BST=Use a pet, watch it kill.

How you make it sound is that its a cheat-code in the back of the Manuel for a game. Its there if you want to use it, sure it makes the game easy but you don't have to use it if you don't want to. The problem with these kind of things are that when the majority of players see this cheat-code they feel like using it, especially if it betters them when without it. Like playing a game with infinite HP to get past the hard parts, then going back to normal. Or in this case, players use it for BlackBelt, Dyna, Emps, and then go back to the jobs that would use it. Other people like me, look at the cheatcode and ignore it, we want to earn our stuff and have a challenge. My Excalibur for example, sure I could go out and do BST, make more AC, have it all easy and fly through it, instead I do it the right way, I do it on my RDM. Its challenging, its fun, its geared well and that shows while I play it and make it though my fights.

[Camiie]

SMN=Level skills, acquiring gear, summon pet, keep MP up, watch it kill.
BST=Use a pet, watch it kill.

Bullshit. Utter ignorant bullshit. Try that anywhere without the right atmas or without a considerable level difference between the mobs and the pet. If you don't have your BST geared properly you and your pet will get smoked like a cheap cigar. Not only are you ignorant, but you're highly insulting to anyone who's put effort into their BST like I have. Please just stop now. Listen to someone with actual experience with the job. It doesn't work the way you claim.

[Demon6324236]

Bullshit. Utter ignorant bullshit. Try that anywhere without the right atmas or without a considerable level difference between the mobs and the pet. If you don't have your BST geared properly you and your pet will get smoked like a cheap cigar. Not only are you ignorant, but you're highly insulting to anyone who's put effort into their BST like I have. Please just stop now. Listen to someone with actual experience with the job. It doesn't work the way you claim.

In basics yes. As I said a BST needs no skilling and needs no gearing to perform where as SMN, PUP, both do. SMN without skilling summoning magic, avatars, and the gear for it is not very good. PUP without attachments, frames, and gear, is not very good. BST naked using a jug pet, is decent and easily kept up with reward/dawns, it starts strong, but can get stronger. Part of what your getting wrong is that its not necessarily about your BST being geared, its about BSTs who arnt geared. A BST poorly geared performing well, thats what this is about, if your well geared good, I would think it would be equally insulting to you that someone naked can still perform on your job decently.