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    BST can keep their attack power and all that good jazz. As far as I'm concerned, they have TH back on Dipper. Just make it to where the pet behaves similar to the Wyvern AI. AKA: If the master attacks something else, the pet auto assists the master. That would put an end to this "I'm gonna claim 3-4+ mobs in dyna. That and if some BSTs would just have some common decency when there is a group waiting in Aby for a time spawn they they will rip apart in like 5-10 mins (if that, lol), but the BST engages the target and takes 20-25 mins (seen it happen several times) and even refuses assistance when the group is willing to give them the drops just to get them out of the way.

    That my only tiffs with BST really. Change these and I'd be willing to bet most of the BST flames will go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javarr View Post
    BST can keep their attack power and all that good jazz. As far as I'm concerned, they have TH back on Dipper. Just make it to where the pet behaves similar to the Wyvern AI. AKA: If the master attacks something else, the pet auto assists the master. That would put an end to this "I'm gonna claim 3-4+ mobs in dyna. That and if some BSTs would just have some common decency when there is a group waiting in Aby for a time spawn they they will rip apart in like 5-10 mins (if that, lol), but the BST engages the target and takes 20-25 mins (seen it happen several times) and even refuses assistance when the group is willing to give them the drops just to get them out of the way.

    That my only tiffs with BST really. Change these and I'd be willing to bet most of the BST flames will go away.

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    Yep, would shut me up.
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    If you are paladin and you are dead... where is the skills in that?? As for your comparison, Summoner avatar is just as close to beast master in this regard. Some jobs are more SOLO friendly, it is called OPTIONS, because some people would prefer to log and play within minutes and not having to need to find others to do anything in the game, get it??? Beastmasters finally get the updates they deserved and now is a shining example of SOLO jobs with PETS who actually REALLY good pets and if you gear it right they become even BETTER pets. So stop butthurt jealous over Beastmasters, level the job if you are envious or don't go near it if you don't like the jobs, since Thief is pretty much the king of Dyna farming when it comes to currencies drop.
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    Ok so you want to nerf bst. To me then you must also nerf the fc parties, and blu with there thunderbolt attack. If you cant stand the bunny of doom then dont go around petting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorD View Post
    Ok so you want to nerf bst. To me then you must also nerf the fc parties, and blu with there thunderbolt attack. If you cant stand the bunny of doom then dont go around petting them.
    LOL agreed with you, there are so many jobs with different OVER POWERED abilities at different type of the game play. Monk and Warrior used to be OMG so GODLY that Beastmaster can only dream of... Blu and War are way overpowered when it comes to AOE attack and farming in Abysea, pair them with a good White Mage and they are invincible, plus you spend NO DIME on jug pets or pet foods or anything, just temp items. It's great that you have so many options with so many different jobs for different occasion. There is actual balance and no job is PERFECT for every single occasion, well except if you are White Mage which is pretty much untouchable when it comes to healing. Or if you are Scholar, which pretty much NEEDED for its super powered two hours that last 12.5 mnts!!! Love all the jobs in the game, beast, whm, and sch included.
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    And just FYI OP..... a nearly naked scholar except for AF3+2 hand can handle all the healing in worm party, frog party or whatever party in abysea. Just use ISL, embrava the WHOLE alliance, rapture + cure 4 as needed, perpetuance + ascension + Regen 5, repeat every 12 mnts or so - or probably as often as you find ISL chest. No white mage needed, just 1 Scholar who knows how to play the job. That said scholar can also nuke if needed, with temp items galore, mp should not be a problem. Tabula Rasa also last 3 mnts, and Kaustra is just well you know, super deadly on a group of mobs!! Talk about over powered yay for Scholar!! Need moar POWAH!!!
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    Then your idea of balance greatly differs from mine. To me any job you play no matter what should take effort and skill to actually be good, there should be no easy handout job for lazy people to play so they can get things easy. It has nothing to do with thinking someone is pro or awesome, simply balance, the job can do well where other jobs would be complete losers, in a way that is both lazy and unfair. BST pets have s high amount of HP compared to players, good damage, good eva, their defensive stats with their HP make them very powerful alone. The master should simply be stronger, and the pet be made weaker to accommodate it, the pet should not be able to do things alone while a master watches and waits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    The master should simply be stronger, and the pet be made weaker to accommodate it, the pet should not be able to do things alone while a master watches and waits.
    Hello, there is such job already, it is called Dragoon!!! It is exactly like you describe it, and if you want more control, Puppetmaster to a degree. What is it that you do not understand about beast master job? Or you are too dense to get that beast master use jug pets to tank and deal damage, end of story, get with the program.
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    O crap a pet that can rely on it's pet to kill things.... nerf it.

    Honestly BST is great for OLD content but sux at newer content (Nyzle v2, Legion, Odin V2, VW) so why take it away from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    O crap a pet that can rely on it's pet to kill things.... nerf it.

    Honestly BST is great for OLD content but sux at newer content (Nyzle v2, Legion, Odin V2, VW) so why take it away from it.
    Reasons were explained in my last few posts. Honestly BST would be somewhat ok as a DD in VW I'm sure if they made the Master stronger as I suggest. The merit Axe WS is STR based, seems to do some nice damage, with enhanced masters that would be even stronger. It wouldn't be a Heavy DD but it could some good damage and supply an extra proc as well. Now that they fixed the hate problems for BST it wouldn't be problematic for that reason either.

    As for NNI, thats because only Heavy DDs, SCH, and perhaps BLU, are good for it, everything else basically gets ignored. Legion I have yet to really try so I wouldn't know, and Odin again, I haven't tried, so I wouldn't know.
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