BST nerf please

[Demon6324236]

He is a troll, butt hurt jealous cuz yeah as beastmaster we can run around naked sending pet to kill for us while we afk and take a very long dump while his pink perle geared trash jobs with zero skill run around complaining in Port Jeuno cuz no one is helping him doing anything. And then again, he is Paladin, which is like one of the perfect tank built, maybe we should complaint about his job lol.

Except BST pets with their naked masters are able to live just as well as a decent geared PLD, except they deal incredibly higher damage, have more eva, Treasure Hunter, and if they die they can be brought back by the master using another jug, where as without Twilight the PLD is down and dead with no return.

[Luvbunny]

If you are paladin and you are dead... where is the skills in that?? As for your comparison, Summoner avatar is just as close to beast master in this regard. Some jobs are more SOLO friendly, it is called OPTIONS, because some people would prefer to log and play within minutes and not having to need to find others to do anything in the game, get it??? Beastmasters finally get the updates they deserved and now is a shining example of SOLO jobs with PETS who actually REALLY good pets and if you gear it right they become even BETTER pets. So stop butthurt jealous over Beastmasters, level the job if you are envious or don't go near it if you don't like the jobs, since Thief is pretty much the king of Dyna farming when it comes to currencies drop.

[ProfessorD]

Ok so you want to nerf bst. To me then you must also nerf the fc parties, and blu with there thunderbolt attack. If you cant stand the bunny of doom then dont go around petting them.

[Luvbunny]

Now, under the conditions of the above underlined statements, can any job perform nearly as well as a BST? No.

Take every job from 1~99 without ever even so much as hitting a mob. Then use each job, and try to solo the Behemoth BCNM with only 5 items off the AH. WAR, MNK, WHM, BLM, RDM, THF, PLD, DRK, BRD, RNG, SAM, NIN, DRG, SMN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC, and SCH. None will stand a single chance against this Behemoth with only 5 items from the AH.

However, the 1 job missing, BST, it can do it without a problem. You simply pop a pet, get some treats, and go to war. The pet is sent in from the start, while the master pulls back, and on rare occasion, the master runs into the fight to dispense a treat. Wait 10~15 minutes, and you can return to a treasure chest laying in the middle of the area, waiting for you to open it.

Hello, Summoner would love to call and say hi, yeah I can solo this with tons of Dawn Mulsum and Fenrir thank you very much and what is so nice about this? Well apart from the NO REWARD timers AT ALL, my avatar is better and survive LONGER while I go spam macro for Dawn Mulsum. It is not the most efficient job for this for sure, but it can if you really want to brag about it - and have a tons of gils to spare and inventory. Granted Beastmaster rule this particular one, but they cannot compare to Summoner for the Wyrm, and they WILL NOT be able to win the Turtle one, no matter how great your beast master is, sorry no can do! Summoners can though. So of all the 3 BCNMS - Summoner actually can win them more, but will have more harder time at Behemoth one.

[Luvbunny]

Ok so you want to nerf bst. To me then you must also nerf the fc parties, and blu with there thunderbolt attack. If you cant stand the bunny of doom then dont go around petting them.

LOL agreed with you, there are so many jobs with different OVER POWERED abilities at different type of the game play. Monk and Warrior used to be OMG so GODLY that Beastmaster can only dream of... Blu and War are way overpowered when it comes to AOE attack and farming in Abysea, pair them with a good White Mage and they are invincible, plus you spend NO DIME on jug pets or pet foods or anything, just temp items. It's great that you have so many options with so many different jobs for different occasion. There is actual balance and no job is PERFECT for every single occasion, well except if you are White Mage which is pretty much untouchable when it comes to healing. Or if you are Scholar, which pretty much NEEDED for its super powered two hours that last 12.5 mnts!!! Love all the jobs in the game, beast, whm, and sch included.

[deces]

Don't worry, with tanaka getting shit canned this video will explain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jn8K8EA7-Q

[Luvbunny]

And just FYI OP..... a nearly naked scholar except for AF3+2 hand can handle all the healing in worm party, frog party or whatever party in abysea. Just use ISL, embrava the WHOLE alliance, rapture + cure 4 as needed, perpetuance + ascension + Regen 5, repeat every 12 mnts or so - or probably as often as you find ISL chest. No white mage needed, just 1 Scholar who knows how to play the job. That said scholar can also nuke if needed, with temp items galore, mp should not be a problem. Tabula Rasa also last 3 mnts, and Kaustra is just well you know, super deadly on a group of mobs!! Talk about over powered yay for Scholar!! Need moar POWAH!!!

[Demon6324236]

Summoners relys on a skill called... Summoning Skill. Without this skill Avatars are very weak, as this skill goes higher the Avatars become more powerful, and thus strong. Gear enhances this further. BST has no such skill, has no such need for gear, and has no such limitation without skill. Also SMN must do quests for the majority of its Avatars, where as BST simply walks over to a shop to buy its best friend Falcor.

Take every job from 1~99 without ever even so much as hitting a mob.

Apparently I didn't make my point clear, instead of this let me say it a different way, all jobs with 0 skill in anything, meaning 0 summoning skill as well.

0 Summoning skill SMN with Carby alone, naked, with 4 Dawns, fighting any lv75+ NM.
BST with a single Falcor & 4 treats for reward, fighting the same NM as the SMN.

SMN will get smashed, BST will have a good shot to win.

BST is the only job in the game that from start to end must do nothing to actually fight somewhat well by lv99 and be able to solo NMs or high level mobs naked if they so choose...

[Luvbunny]

BST is the only job in the game that from start to end must do nothing to actually fight somewhat well by lv99 and be able to solo NMs or high level mobs naked if they so choose...

So? is there anything wrong with that? It's not that hard to get beast master to 99. The job is called, let me repeat it again, BEAST MASTER, emphasize on beast and master, which pretty much a job that need a pet and lots of pet food, and -pet pdt gears if you don't want to spend tons of pet food money. It's for people who prefer have their pets do all the work for them. Not everybody likes this jobs or want to main it or even play it, but hey it is there for you to play it if soloing and not touching the mob is your play style. No difference than pre 99, when you need Charm gears and rotate AS MANY charmed pet as you possible can without having to go near the mob. We just have a stronger jug pets now.

[Luvbunny]

0 Summoning skill SMN with Carby alone, naked, with 4 Dawns, fighting any lv75+ NM. BST with a single Falcor & 4 treats for reward, fighting the same NM as the SMN. SMN will get smashed, BST will have a good shot to win.

Summon magic affect your avatar buff duration and effectiveness and physical and magical BP Rage Accuracy, it does not mean at 0 summon magic my Garuda will be gimped HP Wise, it just means Predator Claw have a greater chance to miss all it's 3 hits. And Grand Fall will not do its potential damage. It will make a difference for sure, but I won't have avatar with half hp. Of the 3 Monk Black Belts BCNMs, Beastmaster shine in the Behemoth one, they do ok on the Wyrm one, not great at all, and they are pretty much useless trying to solo the third one with Turtle, don't care what pets you gonna use, not gonna win at all.