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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Oh i dont farm dynamis for currency, i just want bsts to have to some effort into the job.
    Ok let me get this straight. SE gives us a kickass revamp on BST after all the shitty years it had; you don\\'t do dyna and aren\\'t negatively affected by this powerful solo job(it\\'s supposed to be) but instead of playing the game or doing something to better your own jobs you\\'re on this forum asking for a nerf in the name of making it harder for all of us to achieve the power bst is capable of? maybe scholars should have to pass really hard math tests before they can use all their strategems and White mages should have to fax phd\\'s to SE before they get cure 6 too lol. Everyone gets their own bread and butter skillsets. Bst has the ability to solo better and happens to shine most in dyna, but it\\'s not a top tier dd or a good support job. Those are its\\' tradeoffs for its great solo abilities and the main reason why they aren\\'t nearly as desired in hard endgame situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Oh i dont farm dynamis for currency, i just want bsts to have to some effort into the job. Not FC leech it to 99 get falcor jugs and a ton of bicuits and be all "look at me i endgame, i can have an OP AI fight another AI and reward spam w/o doing any AF or trials for Pet buffs" because sooner or later theres gonna be hoards of RMT BSTs screwing it up for everyone since BSTs takes no skill or real effort to play now.

    And how do you propose this be done? Call Beast skill? Pet Maneuvers? Pet training a la Digimon? Do you want BST to become a carbon copy of Dragoon? Have you even thought about it at all, or did you just get mad and start asking for nerfs? Or is this just another troll?
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    Make reward recast longer! so if you got ped pdt?eva axes it wont really affect dyna bsts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Make reward recast longer! so if you got ped pdt?eva axes it wont really affect dyna bsts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Make reward recast longer! so if you got ped pdt?eva axes it wont really affect dyna bsts
    Because it's not too long already.
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    BST can keep their attack power and all that good jazz. As far as I'm concerned, they have TH back on Dipper. Just make it to where the pet behaves similar to the Wyvern AI. AKA: If the master attacks something else, the pet auto assists the master. That would put an end to this "I'm gonna claim 3-4+ mobs in dyna. That and if some BSTs would just have some common decency when there is a group waiting in Aby for a time spawn they they will rip apart in like 5-10 mins (if that, lol), but the BST engages the target and takes 20-25 mins (seen it happen several times) and even refuses assistance when the group is willing to give them the drops just to get them out of the way.

    That my only tiffs with BST really. Change these and I'd be willing to bet most of the BST flames will go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javarr View Post
    BST can keep their attack power and all that good jazz. As far as I'm concerned, they have TH back on Dipper. Just make it to where the pet behaves similar to the Wyvern AI. AKA: If the master attacks something else, the pet auto assists the master. That would put an end to this "I'm gonna claim 3-4+ mobs in dyna. That and if some BSTs would just have some common decency when there is a group waiting in Aby for a time spawn they they will rip apart in like 5-10 mins (if that, lol), but the BST engages the target and takes 20-25 mins (seen it happen several times) and even refuses assistance when the group is willing to give them the drops just to get them out of the way.

    That my only tiffs with BST really. Change these and I'd be willing to bet most of the BST flames will go away.

    Just my 2 gil.
    Yep, would shut me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Make reward recast longer! so if you got ped pdt?eva axes it wont really affect dyna bsts
    Just shut up, you have no idea about the pet jobs, clearly an idiot and why don't you play the actual game. You want to talk about OVER POWERED? Ok, here are some thoughts for you, maybe your brain will start working and see things in different light. White Mage, one of the PERFECT healer jobs in the game, can be considered OVERPOWERED, but no one complaint about this job which is in every way now is a triple A class when it comes to healer. Scholar, which has one of the MOST OVERPOWERED two hours, is also almost come close to perfect, and if you dare to complaint about Embrava then you are an idiot since it takes a lot of gearing for it to be good. Summoner, which is pretty much the job that is the bastard child of pet jobs, is also just as good as Beastmaster if not more on some occasion, AND A WHOLE LOT cheaper as well able to solo - trio TONS of similar contents to Beastmaster. Dancer is PERFECT soloer, a good one is nearly unbeatable as well as a good dyna farm. Blue Mage is just a very very overpowered mele mage, geared right it puts Beastmaster in shame as well as a good rival when it comes to dyna farm. Ninja is finally almost perfect in every way as evasion tank. Puppetmaster got a very nice update and let me tell you one thing, talk about almost rivaling beast master when it come to solo dyna!! And lastly, talk about forgetting the MOST PERFECT job pre abyssea and ruled the endgame at 75, is Red Mage, which sadly now a shadow of its former self but by all means not a complete trash either if you really know how to play it. These are just example of other jobs that shine brighter than Beastmaster in every way and let's not forget Samurai, Monk, and Warrior which are some of the most over powered damage dealer out there bar none that puts beast in shame.

    So why don't you start a thread of complaining about EVERY SINGLE jobs I listed above since trust me, Beastmaster are nothing compared to those jobs which rule endgame, abysea, and pretty much other contents just as good as beast master could ever hope for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    And how do you propose this be done? Call Beast skill? Pet Maneuvers? Pet training a la Digimon? Do you want BST to become a carbon copy of Dragoon? Have you even thought about it at all, or did you just get mad and start asking for nerfs? Or is this just another troll?
    He is a troll, butt hurt jealous cuz yeah as beastmaster we can run around naked sending pet to kill for us while we afk and take a very long dump while his pink perle geared trash jobs with zero skill run around complaining in Port Jeuno cuz no one is helping him doing anything. And then again, he is Paladin, which is like one of the perfect tank built, maybe we should complaint about his job lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Just shut up, you have no idea about the pet jobs, clearly an idiot and why don't you play the actual game. You want to talk about OVER POWERED? Ok, here are some thoughts for you, maybe your brain will start working and see things in different light. White Mage, one of the PERFECT healer jobs in the game, can be considered OVERPOWERED, but no one complaint about this job which is in every way now is a triple A class when it comes to healer. Scholar, which has one of the MOST OVERPOWERED two hours, is also almost come close to perfect, and if you dare to complaint about Embrava then you are an idiot since it takes a lot of gearing for it to be good. Summoner, which is pretty much the job that is the bastard child of pet jobs, is also just as good as Beastmaster if not more on some occasion, AND A WHOLE LOT cheaper as well able to solo - trio TONS of similar contents to Beastmaster. Dancer is PERFECT soloer, a good one is nearly unbeatable as well as a good dyna farm. Blue Mage is just a very very overpowered mele mage, geared right it puts Beastmaster in shame as well as a good rival when it comes to dyna farm. Ninja is finally almost perfect in every way as evasion tank. Puppetmaster got a very nice update and let me tell you one thing, talk about almost rivaling beast master when it come to solo dyna!! And lastly, talk about forgetting the MOST PERFECT job pre abyssea and ruled the endgame at 75, is Red Mage, which sadly now a shadow of its former self but by all means not a complete trash either if you really know how to play it. These are just example of other jobs that shine brighter than Beastmaster in every way and let's not forget Samurai, Monk, and Warrior which are some of the most over powered damage dealer out there bar none that puts beast in shame.

    So why don't you start a thread of complaining about EVERY SINGLE jobs I listed above since trust me, Beastmaster are nothing compared to those jobs which rule endgame, abysea, and pretty much other contents just as good as beast master could ever hope for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    I mean you just be naked sit back and spam reward and solo grand wyrms w/o having to put effort into learning the job or actually spend time gearing it.
    i just want bsts to have to some effort into the job. Not FC leech it to 99 get falcor jugs and a ton of bicuits and be all "look at me i endgame, i can have an OP AI fight another AI and reward spam w/o doing any AF or trials for Pet buffs
    Now, under the conditions of the above underlined statements, can any job perform nearly as well as a BST? No.

    Take every job from 1~99 without ever even so much as hitting a mob. Then use each job, and try to solo the Behemoth BCNM with only 5 items off the AH. WAR, MNK, WHM, BLM, RDM, THF, PLD, DRK, BRD, RNG, SAM, NIN, DRG, SMN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC, and SCH. None will stand a single chance against this Behemoth with only 5 items from the AH.

    However, the 1 job missing, BST, it can do it without a problem. You simply pop a pet, get some treats, and go to war. The pet is sent in from the start, while the master pulls back, and on rare occasion, the master runs into the fight to dispense a treat. Wait 10~15 minutes, and you can return to a treasure chest laying in the middle of the area, waiting for you to open it.
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