BST nerf please

[Caketime]

I only take yellow mobs from people who take mobs from me when I'm changing pets or kiting. Or if they wait until I use Fight to snag mobs from under me repeatedly and laugh about it. I appreciate courtesy just as much as the next person and will give anyone else around me room to operate so long as they give me that same courtesy. The moment that's broken though, I stop being nice and will call up buddies to lock down the area and troll the offending douche bag until they give up and go home.

[CapriciousOne]

I only take yellow mobs from people who take mobs from me when I'm changing pets or kiting. Or if they wait until I use Fight to snag mobs from under me repeatedly and laugh about it. I appreciate courtesy just as much as the next person and will give anyone else around me room to operate so long as they give me that same courtesy. The moment that's broken though, I stop being nice and will call up buddies to lock down the area and troll the offending douche bag until they give up and go home.

See it is this attitude that is the problem to me. When it comes to doing magian trials that already take along time or when I'm trying to level up my fellow while doing my trials this is a major inconvenience especially when my fellow on has X amount of time or during trials that require weather that only last so long. The fact is as more of us level up to 99 there are only so many areas that have mobs of certain types in exp range, let alone in exp range in areas that give the desired weather effect they need to be killed under. This is all the more reason that maybe the mobs need to take on abyssea form and respawn at higher levels proportionate the number of mobs killed. For instance, If you kill 5- 10 mobs in less than 10 mins and they are level 55-58 they should respawn between levels 60-63 to 65-68. With this implemented there will come a point where even you and your friends will be overwhelmed and eventually wipe. Essentially with things the way they are there is very litlte risk involved for pet jobs in pulling multiple mobs at once like there is non pet jobs and that needs to be addressed.

[Caketime]

See it is this attitude that is the problem to me. When it comes to doing magian trials that already take along time or when I'm trying to level up my fellow while doing my trials this is a major inconvenience especially when my fellow on has X amount of time or during trials that require weather that only last so long. The fact is as more of us level up to 99 there are only so many areas that have mobs of certain types in exp range, let alone in exp range in areas that give the desired weather effect they need to be killed under. This is all the more reason that maybe the mobs need to take on abyssea form and respawn at higher levels proportionate the number of mobs killed. For instance, If you kill 5- 10 mobs in less than 10 mins and they are level 55-58 they should respawn between levels 60-63 to 65-68. With this implemented there will come a point where even you and your friends will be overwhelmed and eventually wipe. Essentially with things the way they are there is very litlte risk involved for pet jobs in pulling multiple mobs at once like there is non pet jobs and that needs to be addressed.

I understand that people have trials to do and various other things, I was just saying I don't condone asshole behavior, and if I experience it from anyone I do what I can to make sure their whole day is ruined. Pay it forward, or whatever.

Increased spawns may inspire others to not troll BST when their pets decide to path like retards, so I'd support that. Then I'd have no reason to be a butt to anyone. :3

[CapriciousOne]

I understand that people have trials to do and various other things, I was just saying I don't condone asshole behavior, and if I experience it from anyone I do what I can to make sure their whole day is ruined. Pay it forward, or whatever.

Increased spawns may inspire others to not troll BST when their pets decide to path like retards, so I'd support that. Then I'd have no reason to be a butt to anyone. :3

Ok fair enough and I agree you should give back as well as you recieve and will never argue that point. I look at it from the standpoint that in every zone, for each mob type there spawns only so many of that type as is and they spawn every so many minutes. If according to the wiki there is only say 5 leeches in the area and they spawn on 15 minute timers dont go killing all 5 with your pet if you see there other ppl trying to work on that mob as well. For me it really is all about consideration of others and nothing more. If i know there is only a few of those mobs in the are and I see some pet job hording most of them, then yes i will try to pick off one of whatever isnt purple when possible bc the mobs are for everybody not just them. If you all alone in a certain section of zone fine but when you clearly see somebody else there it dont hurt to be kind and share is all i'm saying. For me and my experiences though Black Mages/ Summoners are far worst than Beastmasters/Puppetmastes in this behavior with there tier 2/3 -ga and ancient magic as well as -ja spells.

[Demon6324236]

Cake is saying it would be ok if people are already being dickheads. If your being decent, then no need to do such a thing but if your going to be an asshole about things then you should expect it in return, and depending on the person you fuck with, you can expect it in force.

[Minikom]

the problem isnt the BST job, problem is the person behide PC, Xbox or PS2, i have done dynamis on bst and usually try to be nice to others not grabbing more 1 mob at time (if there more ppl around), talk about links is diferent, specially if mobs link to master and not pet or if mobs agroo to master. howevever i have seen plds with Ochain and sub dnc pulling a bunch of mobs (taking a whole family of mobs) and taking to a corner so doing A edge, how we deal with those ochain plds, what should do ppl, come and ask nerf Ochian? not the asnwer.
problem is the person behide of PC, Xbox or PS2, not the job, lets undertand this and stop the blame/complain about all bsts.

[CapriciousOne]

the problem isnt the BST job, problem is the person behide PC, Xbox or PS2, i have done dynamis on bst and usually try to be nice to others not grabbing more 1 mob at time (if there more ppl around), talk about links is diferent, specially if mobs link to master and not pet or if mobs agroo to master. howevever i have seen plds with Ochain and sub dnc pulling a bunch of mobs (taking a whole family of mobs) and taking to a corner so doing A edge, how we deal with those ochain plds, what should do ppl, come and ask nerf Ochian? not the asnwer.
problem is the person behide of PC, Xbox or PS2, not the job, lets undertand this and stop the blame/complain about all bsts.

Ok point taken I couldnt agree more with you that it is the person behind the job. The problem is however this is a BST complaint thread and in many instances the people that I've experience these problems with were BST, SMN, BLM, and occasionally PUP. Overall though I did suggest a level/attack spike for more than 3 mobs linked or attacked at once as a way to discourage this behavior for all jobs not just BST. I feel it can easily be done by having some mechanism check each mobs hate list and see if one name is on more than 3 mobs, if so add x amount attack, evasion, defense, level, and be done with it. Its as simple as that to me.

[Caketime]

Every BST player is a ghoul irl. Flesh eating, the whole bit. Let's not talk about how irresponsible it is to blame one group of people for a social issue while ignoring the shenanigans of literally everyone else, because that would imply that we are capable of intelligent discourse.

[Nawesemo]

Step one: find evil bst training all specific mobs.

Step two: sleepga all of said evil bsts trained mobs.

Step three: manawall. Manafont. Destroy bsts trained mobs.

Step four: wait for the evil nice bst to pull for you again.

Step five: sleepga next pull, ....log.

Step six: rinse repete.


Not a solution for everyone, but was fun for me. (Note this is not a good farming method, but is a good stress reliever)

[Sarick]

Step one: find evil bst training all specific mobs.

Step two: sleepga all of said evil bsts trained mobs.

Step three: manawall. Manafont. Destroy bsts trained mobs.

Step four: wait for the evil nice bst to pull for you again.

Step five: sleepga next pull, ....log.

Step six: rinse repete.


Not a solution for everyone, but was fun for me. (Note this is not a good farming method, but is a good stress reliever)

Very nice, if you can't beat them join them.