BST nerf please

[Phogg]

I fail to understand how a BST with no gear/skilled skills has anything to do with my RDM or it being superior to anything in anyway.

That's not specific to you, but the concept of this entire thread. There's just no point to this thread other than "I don't like all these BSTs around, I think they suck, wah, so lets nerf them so I can feel super duper again!"

Funny thing about these threads and complaints, they are coming from the same sort of people who at 75 never took BSTs around anywhere because they thought they were gimp and underpowered compared to other DD's (which was in reality an equal load of crap as suggesting they are overpowered now when there is simply very little difference in the job aside from the move toward almost exclusive use of jug pets). Can't have it both ways, cupcakes.

[Luvbunny]

Yup, those two never seems to understand that the beast master as a job is tied to the jug pets as weapon, just like ninja with all their tools, you expense something to gain something. The master itself is good but will never beat other melee DD on their own in terms of raw stats power, if you compare them side by side, the jug pets are the half of the equation so to speak. Instead of having one weapon that is forever yours, beast master have to spend gill on their "weapon" which is half their power and will be gone when they zone out and after 90-120 mnts, sometimes even faster if you are fighting mob that is IT. The only reasons they seems overpowered its because so far the mob fought are old contents that are now squishy and too weak. It's rather pointless trying to educate them, these two never play the job, never will and just butt hurt jealous cuz some Perle beast just took over their camp, or their NMs or they have zero friend that will help them solo Behemoth BCNM lol.

[Glamdring]

That's not specific to you, but the concept of this entire thread. There's just no point to this thread other than "I don't like all these BSTs around, I think they suck, wah, so lets nerf them so I can feel super duper again!"

Funny thing about these threads and complaints, they are coming from the same sort of people who at 75 never took BSTs around anywhere because they thought they were gimp and underpowered compared to other DD's (which was in reality an equal load of crap as suggesting they are overpowered now when there is simply very little difference in the job aside from the move toward almost exclusive use of jug pets). Can't have it both ways, cupcakes.

my hero!

I'm a career beast myself. I levelled it because I didn't have the patience to wait LFP in the old days, pre level sync and all, and I loved it from day 1. I leveled it solo all the way to 75 as bst/brd because of elvan MP... and probably some deep-seated masochistic tendancies. I succeeded. It took a LONG time. I got to know the ins and outs of the job VERY well. I've survived multiple nerfs and kept going. I put up with being shut out of all end-game group content until I levelled my bard so I could do that too. My way of playing the game has gotten me a wonderful reputation AS A PERSON amongst other players on the server. Although my beast was often able to "out-do" other players on certain content, this was attributed to my being good at the job.

It does sadden me to see my favorite job's reputation getting tarnished by poorly skilled band-wagon beasts; my consolation is that the same thing has happened to almost every other job. The issue isn't that beast has gotten strong, it's that the prey has gotten weak. SE went in a direction that almost every job should be a solo power-house, so a job like beast, pup, smn and the like that already were power-houses seem to be even moreso. Strange, there's still plenty that beast can't solo-at least in any meaningful way. !! proc systems are murder on this job. Sure, we can pet proc in Dynamis but it's not reliable; my prey is usually dead with at most 1 attempt from my pet because the prey is so damn weak. I actually prefer pup there because I can proc all 3 varieties.

I can solo +2 drop mobs in Aby. BFD!!! I have to use another job to get pops because with beast I have virtually no chance to get KI pop items since I can't proc more than 2% of the time. Of course, even if I DO kill the mob, it isn't procced, so my drops are crap. VW? who cares, there are no drops in VW as near as I can tell. Point of fact, the later end-game stuff is just a drain on my gil balance to keep in jugs/food. And I'd like my damn inventory back if anyone from SE reads this!!!

This job has enough negative issues without haters trying to weaken it because they don't want to level it themselves. I LOATHE playing ninja, I have never once requested it be nerfed, quite the contrary, I advocate for its skills to be broadened. I advocate for rng to have its damage calc scaled back up to the old days when they were on par with blms as they were meant to be.

Save the job, beef the prey!

[Caketime]

That's not specific to you, but the concept of this entire thread. There's just no point to this thread other than "I don't like all these BSTs around, I think they suck, wah, so lets nerf them so I can feel super duper again!"

Funny thing about these threads and complaints, they are coming from the same sort of people who at 75 never took BSTs around anywhere because they thought they were gimp and underpowered compared to other DD's (which was in reality an equal load of crap as suggesting they are overpowered now when there is simply very little difference in the job aside from the move toward almost exclusive use of jug pets). Can't have it both ways, cupcakes.

Listen to this man. +1.


Years ago when we were excluded from everything due to, well, everything about our job we had to take care of business by ourselves. Now at 99 cap nothing at all has changed for us in the PR department, except now people generally regard us as jerks for existing in the same zone as them. I'll never understand the animosity, but it probably has something to do with my nasty habit of snagging unclaimed NMs at 1% from noob alliances and laughing all the way to the bank.

[Natenn]

ppl just mad cause they don't wanna have to actually play the job.

[Luvbunny]

ppl just mad cause they don't wanna have to actually play the job.

Yeah I can say the same thing about every bandwagon jobs out there. Abysea pretty much open the flood gate of bandwagon jobs, any jobs that is on demand and popular, BAM, the whole village would level it. Stop complaining and bitching of things you have no ideas, and maybe you should try to level the job to 99 and actually KNOW how to play it before asking for nerf. The amount of band wagon crappy players with level 99 jobs are overwhelming, let's not forget the amount of bandwagon Paladins as well, why not ask for a nerf to these so called bandwagon Paladin first.

Jug pets are beast consumable weapon, get that in your thick head. It is their weapon - their main bread and butter. Asking it to be nerfed is like me asking for Aegis and Ochain to be nerfed as well based on your shield skills, with 0 skill will active ZERO reduction on anything, and zero effectiveness of cover job ability, meaning you cover nothing with zero shield skill.

And before you yapping for another complaint, here is another thing you should know, as a blm + whm + rdm, using scholar sub, by activating the corresponding dark and light arts, I can get a max 350ish healing magic or elemental magic skill (enfeebling or dark magic) EVEN IF MY ORIGINAL MAGIC SKILL IS AT ZERO. Seems a bit over powered don't you think, considering every other bandwagon aby jobs will get their skills quite high to land spells just by activating the corresponding arts. Yet no one complaints, because why? it does exactly what the sub job needs to do.

[Natenn]

Yeah I can say the same thing about every bandwagon jobs out there. Abysea pretty much open the flood gate of bandwagon jobs, any jobs that is on demand and popular, BAM, the whole village would level it. Stop complaining and bitching of things you have no ideas, and maybe you should try to level the job to 99 and actually KNOW how to play it before asking for nerf. The amount of band wagon crappy players with level 99 jobs are overwhelming, let's not forget the amount of bandwagon Paladins as well, why not ask for a nerf to these so called bandwagon Paladin first.

Jug pets are beast consumable weapon, get that in your thick head. It is their weapon - their main bread and butter. Asking it to be nerfed is like me asking for Aegis and Ochain to be nerfed as well based on your shield skills, with 0 skill will active ZERO reduction on anything, and zero effectiveness of cover job ability, meaning you cover nothing with zero shield skill.

And before you yapping for another complaint, here is another thing you should know, as a blm + whm + rdm, using scholar sub, by activating the corresponding dark and light arts, I can get a max 350ish healing magic or elemental magic skill (enfeebling or dark magic) EVEN IF MY ORIGINAL MAGIC SKILL IS AT ZERO. Seems a bit over powered don't you think, considering every other bandwagon aby jobs will get their skills quite high to land spells just by activating the corresponding arts. Yet no one complaints, because why? it does exactly what the sub job needs to do.

My jobs are all 99, and jugs are stronger then the master by a huge margin. Needs to be nerfed. And 3/5 jobs i have geared are solo jobs and better then BST.

[FrankReynolds]

My jobs are all 99, and jugs are stronger then the master by a huge margin. Needs to be nerfed. And 3/5 jobs i have geared are solo jobs and better then BST.

So you have 3 other jobs that should be nerfed first. Go complain about them then first.

[Mavrick]

My jobs are all 99, and jugs are stronger then the master by a huge margin. Needs to be nerfed. And 3/5 jobs i have geared are solo jobs and better then BST.

You've just thrown away any ounce of credibility you and this thread ever had (if any). There should be doubt in anyone's mind now. Your sir are a troll. This entire thread is just a enormous flame bait.

[Natenn]

You've just thrown away any ounce of credibility you and this thread ever had (if any). There should be doubt in anyone's mind now. Your sir are a troll. This entire thread is just a enormous flame bait.

wow at ppl scared of the truth, BST pets have more HP then a galka MNK, hit almost as hard if not hard as a 2h DD, have pretty decent evasion, and can be cured every 1m? 90s? for just as much as cure 5 and 6. And you don't think it shouldn't be nerfed at all? pets like a fusion of MNK/THF/WAR with the bst spamming reward and stuff like a WHM. If you don't think thats not too OP yo are wrong.