Resolving Pet Hate Issues

[Demon6324236]

Another example of this glitch to better explain it to players whom are unaware of its impact:

When doing Morta, we had an Ochain pop it and he would stand in the corner and supertank Morta. In other words, nobody would engage or take any action upon Morta popping. Upon Morta spawning pets, someone would peel Morta off the PLD and the DDs would thusly begin to kill Morta. Now here's the crux: if a DRG/BST/SMN/PUP's pet was killed by Morta's AoE, all the babies which were previously halfway across the zone, hitting the Ochain PLD would stop hitting the PLD and attack the owner of the pet and then alliance hate would be generated and the babies would swarm the alliance. I've seen this happen in fights where PLD super tanks things. At first I was super incredulous when JP told me to dismiss my Wyvern, but after doing so, babies never came off the PLD and for future fights where supertanking was used I forced players to dismiss their pet i.e against Faljar,Bismarck,Morta etc.

Ok now that you explain it that way, I understand what problem they are addressing and good because that has screwed with me a few times.

[Crimson_Slasher]

I think its more of the situation where a player sends a pet after mob A, and links mob B and C and D, then upon pet death, the entire swarm bum-rushes the master, rather than just the intended target. In fairness, logically thats how it should work if any mob rushes the master at all. But this is balance/mechanic concerns, not logical ones.

While we are on the topic of pet fixes, any chance smn can be added/made to not become visible when using assault, similar to beastmasters ordering their pets to fight? I always found it strange their pets could go off without endangering them while a summoner instantly becomes visible and is forced to try to reapply invisible.

[Rakshaka]

No, that's not the case Crimson. In the situation you're describing, the added monsters instantly relink, this is present in BCNMs and whatnot. The situation that this covers is when you've done nothing to gain enmity on a mob, but your party/alliance has aggroed something, you release, and the mobs come after you. Like people have said, this is present in supertanking fights. This includes things like einherjar (if you're mass pulling mobs), Qilin, etc. The point is that currently, you're releasing your pet, which is causing mobs to attack you.

[Phogg]

Right, for example this was a problem in the island voidwatch fish fight where a tank would hold all the pets and the rest of the alliance would kill the main boss. The SMN in party could not act on the main boss at all without risk of the pets coming at the smn once their pet died or was released, even though they never acted on the pets and only the tank should have any kind of enmity.

[Xilk]

Wow, I wonder if the one where a bst pet seems to randomly run off and fight another mob is related to this.
its mostly seen in abyssea... like in attohwa, you finish killing the skeleton NM, then pet runs off to fight a normal skeleton mob which was not in any fight before.