[Suggestion] Update game controller support for Windows

[Yokai]

Wrong on all accounts and full of assumptions. I played with a controller for a long time. What I am speaking from is experience. Using a controller dose nothing but slow down your game play. If playing and reacting slower doesn't bother you, by all means, use it.

I made no assumptions, actually.

Your response to people asking for an improvement of controller support is to tell people to stop using controllers. That is a wholly unhelpful statement, as I previously pointed out. I am not wrong in this, and I have made no assumptions. You offered nothing in your post to help improve the experience of using a controller.

Furthermore, while I did state what I suspect your reasoning for your unhelpful statement was, I made no assumptions. If my suspicions are incorrect, so be it. I accept that.

Furthermore, controller plus keyboard being better or worse than controller alone is an entirely subjective experience, not an objective one. Your experience may differ from that of others. If you have a better experience without a controller, don't use one. That doesn't mean everyone is better off without a controller.

[FrankReynolds]

Wrong on all acounts and full of assumptions. I played with a controller for a long time. What I am speaking from is experience. Using a controller dose nothing but slow down your game play. If playing and reacting slower doesn't bother you, by all means, use it.

erm... I would like proof that your keyboard made you react faster. This reminds me of when I bought my 8 year old niece a new track uniform and she thought it made her go faster.

I find it very hard to believe that your keyboard somehow doubles as a performance enhancing drug. So far as I can tell, most keyboards have a longer key travel than a game pad does thus forcing you to push harder and farther to achieve a button press. About the only thing that I can imagine working better with a keyboard might be macro selection. Even that can very by job / macro arrangement. Pretty much everything else is at your fingertips with a game pad.

[Zhronne]

Alt/Ctrl macro menus are instant from a gamepad, they take a second to appear from the keyboard.

They are instant as long as you use real gamepad configuration of course. If you associate a gamepad button with Alt or Ctrl on your keyboard of course the menu appear speed will be exactely the same.
And this one of the many reasons why we are asking them to update their controller handler, because doing it through software like xpadder (who associates keyboard keys to gamepad buttons) is not the same.

[wildsprite]

Wrong on all acounts and full of assumptions. I played with a controller for a long time. What I am speaking from is experience. Using a controller dose nothing but slow down your game play. If playing and reacting slower doesn't bother you, by all means, use it.

you must have had a really crappy controller then because everyone I know who uses a real PS2/3 or XB360 controller says it helps them react faster except for typing in text responses

[Ladyofdragons]

Bump.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...380#post361380

[Zhronne]

Everybody who's interested in this, please "Like" the first post. It's the best instrument we have to let community reps and devs know how much we care about this.

[FrankReynolds]

Alt/Ctrl macro menus are instant from a gamepad, they take a second to appear from the keyboard.

They are instant as long as you use real gamepad configuration of course. If you associate a gamepad button with Alt or Ctrl on your keyboard of course the menu appear speed will be exactely the same.
And this one of the many reasons why we are asking them to update their controller handler, because doing it through software like xpadder (who associates keyboard keys to gamepad buttons) is not the same.

I was stretching to find some benefit. If you had set your macros to where things were far enough apart, it might...just maybe... be just a sliver of a second faster to hit ALT + macro than to hit the bumper and arrow over to the macro on your controller. But that would be extremely rare and not really worth swapping to keyboard only for.

maybe if you were this guy it would make sense:

[Zhronne]

bumpity bump!

[Zhronne]

kupo-bump!

[FrankReynolds]

They seriously need to do something about this. I refuse to buy another POS Logitech controller when I have a bunch of perfectly good 360 controllers laying around.