[Suggestion] Update game controller support for Windows

[wildsprite]

Those are the drivers that I use too, but I have never been able to get the wireless ones to work on Windows 7 and it seems that he is no longer hosting them, or he has blocked public access.

I really wish SE would just add support for the 360 controller on PC. Logitech controllers are complete crap. I've replaced so many buttons on those things that it's not even funny.

I have the Masahiko Morii custom drivers for both wired and wireless, I can verify the 64 bit wireless and wired versions are seen as signed(which you will need unless you want to go through the pain of disabling driver signing), I cannot verify the 32 bit wired versions if you want I can try to find a place to share them....

This is the link. It's exactely the same page of the original Masahiko Morii's website (which went down like 1 year ago or some time ago), completley re-hosted by the guys of Lavendy.
http://lavendy.net/special/driver/

Page is in japanese but don't get scared, look at the link. The first two basically

http://lavendy.net/special/driver/x360wc/index.html
WC ==> Wireless Controller

http://lavendy.net/special/driver/x360c/index.html
C => Controller, this is for the wired version

They're identical, a few options are different on the last page but it's exactely the same drivers. On my old PC I used these and they are so much more awesome than XBCD imho.
Too bad that something doesn't work on my new PC... I dunno why. Triggers work but the right stick doesn't ;_;

Oh and it's not against the TOS, drivers are signed by Microsoft, it's good stuff (Masahiko Morii used to be a recognized official Microsoft developer in Japan)

the versions on that site are older and not seen as signed by windows 7 64 bit, I tested them.....unless they updated it in the last month or so

[Zhronne]

bump for some more love

[Krashport]

The controller setup of FFXI is pretty limited, very old and doesn't allow you to handle common gamepads, like the Xbox360 Game Controller, in the two analogic shoulder buttons which get recognized as "Z Axis" and not digital buttons.

Things could be easily solved in many ways if SE could think about updating that tool in the future, since they're re-doing the UI as well.
I can see at least two main paths of action:

1) Update the current Gamepad utility allowing it to handle analogic buttons as digital buttons
2) Update the support to Xinput as well

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...Control-Config.

[Zhronne]

This is the link. It's exactely the same page of the original Masahiko Morii's website (which went down like 1 year ago or some time ago), completley re-hosted by the guys of Lavendy.
http://lavendy.net/special/driver/

Page is in japanese but don't get scared, look at the link. The first two basically

http://lavendy.net/special/driver/x360wc/index.html
WC ==> Wireless Controller

http://lavendy.net/special/driver/x360c/index.html
C => Controller, this is for the wired version

They're identical, a few options are different on the last page but it's exactely the same drivers. On my old PC I used these and they are so much more awesome than XBCD imho.
Too bad that something doesn't work on my new PC... I dunno why. Triggers work but the right stick doesn't ;_;

Oh and it's not against the TOS, drivers are signed by Microsoft, it's good stuff (Masahiko Morii used to be a recognized official Microsoft developer in Japan)

[FrankReynolds]

This is the link. It's exactely the same page of the original Masahiko Morii's website (which went down like 1 year ago or some time ago), completley re-hosted by the guys of Lavendy.
http://lavendy.net/special/driver/

Page is in japanese but don't get scared, look at the link. The first two basically

http://lavendy.net/special/driver/x360wc/index.html
WC ==> Wireless Controller

http://lavendy.net/special/driver/x360c/index.html
C => Controller, this is for the wired version

They're identical, a few options are different on the last page but it's exactely the same drivers. On my old PC I used these and they are so much more awesome than XBCD imho.
Too bad that something doesn't work on my new PC... I dunno why. Triggers work but the right stick doesn't ;_;

Oh and it's not against the TOS, drivers are signed by Microsoft, it's good stuff (Masahiko Morii used to be a recognized official Microsoft developer in Japan)

Nice! Thanks a lot man. I'll try these out when I get home and see if I can get them to work.

[Zhronne]

Bump! Hoping the dev guys will be able to give some info about this.

[FrankReynolds]

Bump! Hoping the dev guys will be able to give some info about this.

Me too.

I did download the drivers BTW. Thanks for posting those. I'm still not able to get them to work with a wireless controller though. Looks like it's wired for the foreseeable future.

[Zhronne]

You sure you downloaded the wireless ones? There are two drivers, one for wireless and one for wired.
For the wireless controller you also need another thing to do.
In Windows 7 in your "Device list" menu you should have TWO peripherals: the gamepad and the receiver.
You need to select THE RECEIVER and not the controller. Then you right click/properties, then you select to upgrade/change drivers, then to do it manually, then you select the path where you unzipped the drivers from Mr. Morii, and then you go on and click yes blah blah.

After that they should work.
You only need to do this for the RECEIVER and not for the controller, otherwise it won't work.

[FrankReynolds]

You sure you downloaded the wireless ones? There are two drivers, one for wireless and one for wired.
For the wireless controller you also need another thing to do.
In Windows 7 in your "Device list" menu you should have TWO peripherals: the gamepad and the receiver.
You need to select THE RECEIVER and not the controller. Then you right click/properties, then you select to upgrade/change drivers, then to do it manually, then you select the path where you unzipped the drivers from Mr. Morii, and then you go on and click yes blah blah.

After that they should work.
You only need to do this for the RECEIVER and not for the controller, otherwise it won't work.

Yeah, I used the wireless drivers on my old XP machine and one of my windows 7 laptops, but I can't seem to get them to work on either of my new windows 7 machines. I'm wondering if maybe it's a minor difference between windows 7 home and windows 7 enterprise although I doubt it is. I'll try and look into it more in the next few days. Hopefully the devs will make this happen without 3rd party drivers soon

[Hashmalum]

While we are on the subject of the game controller for the PC version, please allow FFXI to continue to receive controller input in windowed mode even when the FFXI application does not have the input focus. Trying to play FFXI in the windowed mode too often goes like this:

Okay, I need to check the wiki and see what to do next. I'll put my character on autorun.

*opens wiki page* Oh, I see I've autorun into an obstacle. *change window focus* *wait 2 seconds for FFXI to start responding to controller input again* *makes course correction*

Okay, back to the wiki. The details seem to be on a linked page, we'll just click through to that (taking the input focus)... Oh, I've autorun into something else again. *change window focus* *wait 2 seconds for FFXI to start responding to controller input again* *makes course correction*

Back to the wiki. Ok, read this, scroll down (stealing the input focus away again), read this, scroll down... Oops, monsters coming up. *change window focus* *wait 2 seconds for FFXI to start responding to controller input again* *makes course correction*

Ok. Back to the wiki. Oh, I see there's a quest that comes after this one. Let's just see what it is (stealing the input focus away AGAIN)... Oh, someone asked if I had a certain key item. Let me just open my key items menu and see if I do... *change window focus* *wait 2 seconds for FFXI to start responding to controller input again* *opens Key Items menu*

As you can see, trying to actually use the official windowed mode is an exercise in frustration. Get rid of the lag upon switching window focus, and never stop responding to the controller short of minimizing the window.