Nyzul Isle Assault Bug

[Reiterpallasch]

p.s. - I've no need to fear the ban hammer. Do you have a need to for yourself or your friends?

What you need to be fearing is the possible implications that your jealousy can cause. I'm saying if they banned anyone that has ever cheated as well as their friends, like you seem to want, it would mean for a very fast death of the game (inb4 FFXI is dying bullshit argument).

[Arcon]

But, no, it's simply disgust at people who feel the need to circumvent the rules and then try and justify it by saying "hey, everyone's doing it."

I don't need to justify it, it's a fact that 95% of cheating is not hurting anybody. In fact, you probably wouldn't notice a cheater if you played with one for years, if they didn't mention it. I, on the other hand, used to gear swap like crazy on my PLD and people were always thinking I was using Windower macros or SpellCast, which I wasn't.

Breaking the rules is bad? Why? Why are rules so precious to you? If the rules are ridiculous, breaking them is common sense. What about cheating that doesn't affect gameplay at all? What if someone regrets making a Taru (and let's not kid ourselves, who wouldn't?) and wants to see themselves as a Hume? It's illegal to swap their own character. But how is it affecting anything at all? Not only does it not put anyone else at a disadvantage, it doesn't even give any advantage to their own gameplay. Only to their peace of mind.

Rules are not arbitrary. Rules are supposed to serve a purpose. Following rules for the rules' sake is pointless. Rules should be followed to uphold their purpose, which, in this case, is to maintain game balance. And the balance is not upset by a majority of so-called cheats (not all of them are, actually). Sadly, rules are never perfect. SE likes to prevent people from doing the right thing in the fear of making a bad thing possible, which is, with no exceptions known to me, always the worst possible way to approach an issue. The reason Windower came into existence is that SE feared third party tools and disabled leaving fullscreen mode trying to prevent it. Doing that, they imposed a huge restriction on everyone for the fear of a select few using cheats in an environment which was very competitive at endgame. Endgame, which, was not a concern to a majority of the people, and is even less of an issue now.

I have a question to you, personally. Fittingly, it violates the forum rules. A long time ago in a country far, far away, it used to be the law to report any Jews you could identify (or even suspect) to the authorities. Would you follow them or not?

I know it sounds like a stupid Nazi comparison, but it does serve a purpose as well, because following the rules blindly means you're leaving the judgment of what's right or wrong to them instead of your conscience. And that, good Sir, makes you a dickwad. I believe that's the technical term.

[Raksha]

Oops, apparently touched a nerve. And, nope. You can try and recast my disgust at cheating, guessing either yours and/or your friends' or shells', as jealousy. But, no, it's simply disgust at people who feel the need to circumvent the rules and then try and justify it by saying "hey, everyone's doing it."

Oh, hang on...nope still just disgust.

p.s. - I've no need to fear the ban hammer. Do you have a need to for yourself or your friends?

Did we find Starcade's new sock?

[Monchat]

Greetings!

We recently confirmed that there is a bug for Nyzul Isle assault where users are able to know the order of lamps via the usage of unintended exploits.

The development team is currently working to fix this as soon as possible, but please keep in mind that using third-party tools or any form of game exploit usage will not be tolerated and that we are continuously keeping track and dealing with this issue.

Finally, if you are aware of players possibly using exploits, we urge you to make a report to the Special Task Force to help facilitate our investigation.

This is even more proof that the feedback on the EN forums aren't even taken into account by the DEVs. There have been like 5+ thread about this. Ironically everytime someone mentionned the cheat too explicitly they were banned or post deleted.

Either that or you are bunch of hypocrites that faint discovering an issue. It's funny that when a JP finds one you tube video with cheater the JP reps immediatly reply and action is taken lol. Btw the leader on that video came here making tons of posts on how he is good at nyzul and is full of mad skillz.

I'm still offering 5 umbral marrow to anyone proving me with a video that they won nyzul SE's client and with at least one order lamp floor with 5 lamps.

Good'old FFXI devs, fixing the symptom instead of fixing content. this is just the nth time. I remember the first chocobo diggin and fishing nerfs..

[Soidisant]

Btw the leader on that video came here making tons of posts on how he is good at nyzul and is full of mad skillz.

In this topic

Tons = 2 posts. (EDIT: Sorry 3 posts)
Being good at Nyzul and having mad skillz = being smart enough to run to the nearest mob your teammate isn't on and hitting it whilst embrava'ed.

My group was competent. Nothing more, nothing less. As you would expect after 7-10 years of playing for each member. I said 'remotely good' which hardly suggests outstanding skills and I wasn't even talking about our group in particular. There was certainly people on BG who had higher success rates than us.

If you're going to take a dig at me, at least make it valid. Christ, I make enough ****ish posts on the internet for people not to have to resort to outright lying.

[Luvbunny]

Nothing change as usual... REMOVE the lamps order and we should be fine. As many have said, have everyone touch the lamp, call it a day, fix the problem and no one needs to cheat.

[Arcon]

No one will be banned for dat swaps, as they're client side and undetectable by SE. The only things they could detect would be clippers, if they cared enough to do it.

It's sad to see SE didn't learn a thing. Although not surprising, which is even more sad.

SE missed the point more than the movie Pearl Harbor. And that's an awful lot, girl.

[Monchat]

No one will be banned for dat swaps, as they're client side and undetectable by SE.

they can probably detect how many people are "lucky" enough to guess lamp order on the first try, and figure out where enemies/lamps etc are within 30s.

[Arcon]

they can probably detect how many people are "lucky" enough to guess lamp order on the first try, and figure out where enemies/lamps etc are within 30s.

If they keep track of that, and it's still no proof, I actually got it right on the first try just this week helping friends reach FL100 on old Nyzul Isle. And dat swaps don't help with finding anything quicker either, only recognizing the lamp order.

[MarkovChain]

If they keep track of that, and it's still no proof, I actually got it right on the first try just this week helping friends reach FL100 on old Nyzul Isle. And dat swaps don't help with finding anything quicker either, only recognizing the lamp order.

Yes it's proof if you did it on all your nyzul wins. They could for instance remove the nyzul gear from their invo instead of bans.