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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
    But it doesn't make it a victimless crime. Rather than take appropriate courses of action to remedy the situation the person made the poor choice to do what they did.
    So what exactly is the appropriate course of action that a player could take that would actually remedy the situation? Telling the Development Bros to improve their event cleary doesn't remedy the situation, so what options were then left to them? I'm genuinely curious.
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    I can smell the ban hammer !
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    Are you suggesting that SE is monitoring the Nyzul situation and will adjust it based how people do? Do you think that they'll see the huge upcoming drop off in participation and winning runs and say "oh my word, we have to adjust this, people aren't winning enough."
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    I agree about the frustrations and stuff with Order lamp objective. I don't mind for everything else to stay as is, but I do see Order Lamps being the biggest problem and wastes more time than other stuff. I do wish to either see something done to Order lamps either remove "Order" completely and just have "Same Time" and "Code" left as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    So what exactly is the appropriate course of action that a player could take that would actually remedy the situation? Telling the Development Bros to improve their event cleary doesn't remedy the situation, so what options were then left to them? I'm genuinely curious.
    There probably wasn't an appropriate course of action that would fix anything. What people should have done is not do events they don't like and not let the lure of shinies and a sense of entitlement lead them to break the rules.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings!

    We recently confirmed that there is a bug for Nyzul Isle assault where users are able to know the order of lamps via the usage of unintended exploits.

    The development team is currently working to fix this as soon as possible, but please keep in mind that using third-party tools or any form of game exploit usage will not be tolerated and that we are continuously keeping track and dealing with this issue.

    Finally, if you are aware of players possibly using exploits, we urge you to make a report to the Special Task Force to help facilitate our investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castoth View Post
    Why not just remove lamp floors entirely instead? This event is the most broken thing in FFXI as is, reducing the success rate of the cheaters to 0% (like the non-cheaters) will just make Neo Nyzul completely dead instead of just mostly dead.
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    Please tell the reps, the community has spoken its opinion on their choices, and relay the messages brought to you by the people in this thread, concerning this change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cahlum View Post
    If SE bans any of the tiny amount of players left on this game because of this they are stupid.
    Hmmm, but the general consensus on this forum seems to be that it's a good move for SE to deny the tiny amount of players on the NA PS2 the new expansion. Keep cheaters and get rid of loyal customers. Makes sense to me.

    I've heard all these arguments before...before they did the salvage bans. I think there''s going to be a lot of laughs to be had before this is all over.
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    Last edited by Aldersyde; 07-21-2012 at 10:39 AM.

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    I don't see the point in having cheaters banned. I mean, I just can't bring myself to care about people who cheated for the same gear I got.

    I see the point in asking SE over and over to update the event itself so that anyone can do it and earn the gear, I really think anyone should be able to get it, period. I just don't understand why people care about others when X player obtaining a full Phorcys or not has 0 impact on them.

    At this point, we don't even need people to brag about their non-existent skill, jealousy is here automatically, and it's really sad.

    The way Nyzul Isle Uncharted works is a shame, but the way the majority of players react is even worse. This is why some people are not meant to be respected as players, because they are just made of jealousy, envy and other things that can't be respected.

    Also, about the video, I hope this SAM will at least get fired, using Masamune in there should really earn you a ban.
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    If they can't remove lamp floors completely, maybe they can alter it to be less of the luck based, time consuming, monstrosity it currently is? I vote for (IF they are adamant about not removing it entirely) just making it "Do the Lamps OR kill all enemies on the floor.", just as an example. Maybe give MULTIPLE objectives to choose from on lamp floors rather then just one. Of course... they would probably implement it to pertain to ALL floors, if they did that. I dunno if that'd be bad or worse. If its randomized could get two lamp objectives. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidi View Post
    If they can't remove lamp floors completely, maybe they can alter it to be less of the luck based, time consuming, monstrosity it currently is? I vote for (IF they are adamant about not removing it entirely) just making it "Do the Lamps OR kill all enemies on the floor.", just as an example. Maybe give MULTIPLE objectives to choose from on lamp floors rather then just one. Of course... they would probably implement it to pertain to ALL floors, if they did that. I dunno if that'd be bad or worse. If its randomized could get two lamp objectives. XD
    Honestly even if it were 2 lamp floors in 1, its not order alone, and since your saying its do 1 or the other even on a double lamp floor it wouldn't be to bad because you can get code which is easy or same time which isn't nearly as bad.
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