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  1. #111
    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragmar View Post
    That isn't all you get when you download windower. Macro's, Distance, party TP/MP, fillmode, yarnball, recast, and lots of other little things.
    Those also aren't the basic functions, those are additional plugins that you don't need to use.
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  2. #112
    Player wish12oz's Avatar
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    About windower basic functions: I think my favorite one is the one where if your wireless controller hooked up to your PC shuts off, or if your plugged in controlled gets unplugged for a second, you dont have to shutdown FFXI and then turn it back on to use the controller again. It would be nice if SE would copy this for FFXI and FFXIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I have a question to you, personally. Fittingly, it violates the forum rules. A long time ago in a country far, far away, it used to be the law to report any Jews you could identify (or even suspect) to the authorities. Would you follow them or not?.
    I lol'd, this is one of the best posts ever, totally gonna remember it to use later!
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    Last edited by wish12oz; 07-23-2012 at 02:27 PM.

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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    Nyzul Investigation was one of my favourite events, I loved it.
    Nyzul Uncharted is stupid.
    There were so many other ways it could be done..like saving progress every 10 floors and resetting at 100, or making so all astrariums could be traded for HQ gear(granted in the proper amounts depending on floor), etc...but nope, they had to be "original" and screwed up.
    Will you ever hire a battle development team that knows wtf they're doing? Yes people asked for events requiring skill, but this is another luck based event, it is not fair, it is not what people wanted and your way of solving the issue won't solve a damn at all.
    Finally a post. no a thread that has everyone on the same page yes we all asked for a challenging Arena or Battle system for us to get 1 of the best gears but seriously square enix just make it challenging in sense takes skill not luck.
    Luck based fights aren't skill full and it just pisses off the FFXI community as you see the whole thread is pissed at your Team Decision to make new Events "Luck" Based no one likes that kind of thing if it is there make less noticeable that's all we ask as a player base community.
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  4. #114
    Player Malthar's Avatar
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    Ok, we got to neo Nyzul F100, completely legit (no order lamps!!!) with 3 min to kill boss. The only problem was that we had ws's and smn magic restricted. Complete bs.
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  5. #115
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings!

    We recently confirmed that there is a bug for Nyzul Isle assault where users are able to know the order of lamps via the usage of unintended exploits.

    The development team is currently working to fix this as soon as possible, but please keep in mind that using third-party tools or any form of game exploit usage will not be tolerated and that we are continuously keeping track and dealing with this issue.

    Finally, if you are aware of players possibly using exploits, we urge you to make a report to the Special Task Force to help facilitate our investigation.
    I will not be reporting cheaters. I don't give a crap about cheaters. I want events that don't suck. Your just making the event suck for the few people that could actually do it, when you should be making the event good for the people who can't.
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 07-23-2012 at 04:45 PM.

  6. #116
    Player Soidisant's Avatar
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    Can you get 2 Pathos restrictions on the same floor if Gears aren't present? I've only ever seen 1 randomly assigned and then additional ones on that floor if you kill/aggro a gear when you're not supposed to.

    WS restriction on 100 is a killer though, that's bad luck for your group =/

    We had White Magic restricted once on 100 but it wasn't as bad as you would think (No, not stealth bragging. Embrava and Fanatics usually mean you live long enough for it not to matter). I imagine WS'es would be far, far worse just judging from how long it takes to kill lower floor bosses when WS'es are restricted. Or if you get it on something like an All / Spec Fam with Amorphs/Puddings.
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    Last edited by Soidisant; 07-23-2012 at 04:45 PM.

  7. #117
    Player Ragmar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Those also aren't the basic functions, those are additional plugins that you don't need to use.
    Right people download the non SE approved version to not use these things. Fact is you simply want to think your cheating is ok but that others cheating with other programs isn't because you don't use those other programs. It's normal mind you but flawed none the less. Also you don't "need" to use windower at all as myself and many other PS2 players have done without it for years. I do play on PC as well.
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    Last edited by Ragmar; 07-23-2012 at 05:19 PM.

  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soidisant View Post
    Can you get 2 Pathos restrictions on the same floor if Gears aren't present? I've only ever seen 1 randomly assigned and then additional ones on that floor if you kill/aggro a gear when you're not supposed to.

    WS restriction on 100 is a killer though, that's bad luck for your group =/

    We had White Magic restricted once on 100 but it wasn't as bad as you would think (No, not stealth bragging. Embrava and Fanatics usually mean you live long enough for it not to matter). I imagine WS'es would be far, far worse just judging from how long it takes to kill lower floor bosses when WS'es are restricted. Or if you get it on something like an All / Spec Fam with Amorphs/Puddings.
    Having a BLU/WAR along fixes that for the most part. WS restriction on floor 100 could still be an issue if your tight on time. WS restriction doesn't stop BLU physical spells from doing what they do.

    Also the person above is lying. You can't get more then one pathos per floor.
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    Last edited by saevel; 07-23-2012 at 10:05 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

  9. #119
    Player kyomi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I will not be reporting cheaters. I don't give a crap about cheaters. I want events that don't suck. Your just making the event suck for the few people that could actually do it, when you should be making the event good for the people who can't.
    Can't do that if the data suggests there is nothing in need of fixing because people are fluffing it with unreliable data showing it isn't that hard because they remove an unknown variable turning it into a constant known value (ie: remove the random order of lamps via dat swaps making it a known order). There are people who complete the event through legit means so this only makes it harder to do so, but not impossible.
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  10. #120
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Honestly SE is playing on our nerves, acting like they are discovering name changing only now, when there has been 4 or 5 threads complaining about this in the past months. Now they pretend it's a bug ? Initially they probably meant nyzul to only be given to a few couple of people, alla salvage gear back in the day. But they pathetically failed by introducing a pure luck factor. The playerbase would be a lot less raging if they had done normal nyzul with the usual saving of progression but with a supersmall droprate instead. The situation of nyzul right now is the following :

    * NI 2.0 was 10x harder to clear before the stopper patch, and they actually expected you to reach it (it was nigh impossible even with cheats)
    * They introduced stopped, but it's still random as hell and there is no way you can win unless super luck (basically 12 or 13 jumps with +7 to +9).
    * everyone cheats. Noone wins without most of their members doing dat swaps.

    I'm sure they can't change the floor system without redisigning the event completely. SE's only choice is to revamp it into a much nicer/less random progression with low droprates.

    I've suggested it in other thread but i'll reiterate my suggestion :

    @ SE devs :

    1) record all F100 nyzul wins since release.
    2) out of those wins, check how many of those runs had a lamp order floor.
    3) examine the % of those runs where people went 1/1 on guessing lamps.

    If you don't find 99%+ or more plese let me now.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 07-23-2012 at 07:47 PM.

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