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    Raist, its not that easy to team up with ppl doing old content stuff. A factor to my stoping ffxi 6mnths ago outside money, was being told but alot of LS mates that what I needed help with was "beneath them" or "not worth their time". I actually had to beg my ex to help me which was embarrassing enough cuz I was the one who dumped him. Alot of stuff is changing to be solo-able. I have no issue asking for help. Just actually getting the help is hard. I'm in reality pretty nice and helpful and the current LS i'm in asks me questions about the content or quests. And cuz of my good gaming memory I can give them quick responces of detailed quests w/o having to look up wiki. So its not like I don't help back...
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    That's hardly helping as you're not expending much of your own time to go out of your way unless it takes you extra effort to think of a quick answer to a common question about a quest. I can't stand people that beg for help 24/7, so damn helpless. You can solo so much content now if not you can always go to shouting or getting yourself a mule. When people play this game they play for themselves in most cases, its just how the world works. They don't wanna sit down after a long day at work or school and have to help some random scrubs all the time. Most only help or do things due to ulterior motives such as mutual benefit or being able to call in a favor. I wouldn't want to help someone that begs all the time and helps in return by looking up an answer on wiki for a random question.
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    forgot to hit quote button

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Raist, its not that easy to team up with ppl doing old content stuff. A factor to my stoping ffxi 6mnths ago outside money, was being told but alot of LS mates that what I needed help with was "beneath them" or "not worth their time". I actually had to beg my ex to help me which was embarrassing enough cuz I was the one who dumped him. Alot of stuff is changing to be solo-able. I have no issue asking for help. Just actually getting the help is hard. I'm in reality pretty nice and helpful and the current LS i'm in asks me questions about the content or quests. And cuz of my good gaming memory I can give them quick responces of detailed quests w/o having to look up wiki. So its not like I don't help back...
    Then you are running with the wrong people I guess. People get help from our LS members all the time. I've added a lot of friends myself in the past year doing that very thing, even picked up some new LS members out of it. Many times someone will bring it up in LS that someone has been shouting for help with something to see if anyone can help them because they are already commited to an event....often someone jumps in. Not too long ago, I knocked out two GK's for a complete stranger's wife--took her to the glacier crystal and showed her the maw and OP and such, simply because he asked politely. So many of these things take virtually no time to help someone with now on 99 jobs. Guess you're just not having any luck finding people willing to help you with these things for some reason....which is odd, considering in my experience it hasn't really been a problem.

    All I know is I would have never completed my level caps and tons of other content way back when if not for the help of friends I made along the way....some whom I still play with to this very day I might add. This game was never meant to be so much of a soloable experience as people are hell-bent on making it now. It is, after all, an MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    RAIST, while I agree with you teaming up is good it does not solve part of the problem. I will admit that it is a good idea on what to do but can you honestly tell anyone it sounds right that for a Windurstian to complete a rank 2 mission they need a lv90~99 bodyguard? Same with the second limit break, again you would need a level 90~99 body guard to get there unless you know the back roads that use the [S] areas, which by lv55 you are not likely going to have found out about yet. The high level mobs being added was a nice idea however it was poorly implemented, as I said SE did it to follow their current trend on content but the way they did it was to much in the way.
    not exactly the best examples for your argument....but I get what you're saying. But still, that's not really that much of a design issue. Even before these higher mobs were added, many jobs could still get their face eaten trying to solo a lot of older content. The point I think you're missing is that even in the past, a lot of this stuff still almost required you to enlist help to accomplish them (depending on what jobs you had available). So, in a way....nothing has changed except that instead of enlisting a level 75 player (the cap at the time), you would be enlisting a level 99 player (the new cap).
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    Draylo i can tell you didn't read my post and just blindely replied with some insults.. outside the insults you do make a good point. And I also ask if people are busy before asking if I need help. But replying to a question IS helping. They do have to stop what they are doing to type. I don't use wiki cuz I have no means to. I just rerolled 70 times and remember alot of stuff I did over the years. But I also do help people with nm and the like or help them level up.

    And raist I know thats why I left the server. I never bug ppl to help me unless i really needed it. I personally perfer to help other more then get help for myself, its just how I was raised.

    I'm also always up for planing for help in the near future. And not ask for it to be done right away.
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    Well...it's kinda of hard to get help with something if you aren't asking for it.

    And there's a difference between trying to do it yourself, failing miserably, then asking for help and asking someone to simply do it all for you. There are those who earn the help of others because they see them struggling....sometimes the help comes unsolicited even. Guess it's all in how you communicate with other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    not exactly the best examples for your argument....but I get what you're saying. But still, that's not really that much of a design issue. Even before these higher mobs were added, many jobs could still get their face eaten trying to solo a lot of older content. The point I think you're missing is that even in the past, a lot of this stuff still almost required you to enlist help to accomplish them (depending on what jobs you had available). So, in a way....nothing has changed except that instead of enlisting a level 75 player (the cap at the time), you would be enlisting a level 99 player (the new cap).
    just to clear something up... these mobs are also in low level quest areas... for r1 level quests. such as "making headlines" "minesweeper" I'm avtually curious how you can do the "hidden" escort quest in dangruf wadi... since that area i think got changed.... I'm all for teamwork and getting/helping ppl... but these quests are for lvl1-10... shouldn't have to get help
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Well...it's kinda of hard to get help with something if you aren't asking for it.

    And there's a difference between trying to do it yourself, failing miserably, then asking for help and asking someone to simply do it all for you. There are those who earn the help of others because they see them struggling....sometimes the help comes unsolicited even. Guess it's all in how you communicate with other players.
    oh i ask trust me. I go "hey is anyone busy?" typically get a yes or no responce. Then I ask well at some point can someone help me with something? I get a few sures, what is it... Then I say... 2-3 dragon or one of the quests i made mention of... replies i get typically... "oh just level to cap and solo them" or "umm that is beneath me if you need help with abyssea set i'm all for it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    oh i ask trust me. I go "hey is anyone busy?" typically get a yes or no responce. Then I ask well at some point can someone help me with something? I get a few sures, what is it... Then I say... 2-3 dragon or one of the quests i made mention of... replies i get typically... "oh just level to cap and solo them" or "umm that is beneath me if you need help with abyssea set i'm all for it"
    Again..that's an issue with the players involved....not necessarily an issue with game design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Again..that's an issue with the players involved....not necessarily an issue with game design.
    I understand.. But if the change wasn't needed it could be fixed to improve game quality. If they can change it It what I'm asking but If they can't no worries. But it would be benificial considering i don't see anyone in these areas... If it is an issue to change it back I understand but I don't think it should be.
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