Windurst region fix.

[Demon6324236]

it is a bit unfair that high level players get areas that were once for low-mid levels

Its because there are more high levels than low levels...

[Rosina]

Its because there are more high levels than low levels...

and the game is not newbie friendly as it once was.

[Demon6324236]

abd the game is not newbie friendly as it once was.

Actually no, its more so, you see the people who are to stubborn to make the choice of leveling fast via Abyssea/GoV fail to understand that. Where as most will also condemn those who think is good. They both allow new players to get themselves into the most populated part of the game in a matter of days, where as before it was a long grind to get to where most players had the most content and new content being made. In my eyes its like telling you there is a 100 mile bridge and it keeps being built outwards called FFXI, before, you had to walk all 100 miles and then some to catch up to everyone, now you can get someone to give you a car ride for a few bucks and you get caught up to everyone in just a few hours, then you can work with everyone else on the bridge together!

[Rosina]

btw Raise the part you kinda fail to read is that part you wrote
" Quite simply, the changes are not needed, " << this pretty much does infact mean you find it pointless. If something is not needed it is pointless.

I feel this suggested is needed, I gave my input. Also this game was never that hard/ long to get lvls. Only ones who actually complained are the ppl who wrere rude, leeched, and noobs in general. (who are the apparent ones who took over the ffxi community... or at least the assumed of most forum posters) I restarted this game 70 times. And i got 16 of those 70 up to max in my play time of 7 years.

[RAIST]

btw Raise the part you kinda fail to read is that part you wrote
" Quite simply, the changes are not needed, " << this pretty much does infact mean you find it pointless. If something is not needed it is pointless.

If you take it out of context, then I guess you could say that, but you can't slice and dice the complete thought. Even cutting it up like that, it doesn't mesh right. Not needed =/= pointless. Pointless implies it would make no difference towards acheiving the ultimate result, Not needed means it is not necessary to make the change in order to achieve the ultimate goal.

Put in context, with the whole statement ("Quite simply, the changes are not needed, and will drastically upset the structure of what the game has evolved into.") it has a deeper meaning. The discussion was about viable, reasonable alternative strategies for accomplishing the ultimate goals in question. The discussion was bringing forth ways to get things done even with this new obstical. After showing that it is not a permanent obstacle preventing progression, it is thus not needed to change it, especially in light of the point that it will upset the new structure that has evolved. Essentially, you are asking for a change so that one group of people can continue to do what they can already do, and in doing so, denying another group from doing what they are currently doing--when it can be basically left alone (as one poster pointed out, they could just make them non-aggressive) and both parties can continue to progress.

Therefore, it is not necessary for them to revert the zones to their previous states...as there are already remedies present, and if the threat is still too great, they can tweak it just a little to remove the threat without upsetting the current structure that is proving useful as inteneded when the change was implemented.

[Edit:]
as for the statement about "I never stated any reply here was a personal attack outside the one triss made.", you continued to put forth the notion that I have been harrassing you, which is clearly not the case.

Oh, and then there's this post, aimed directly at me:

I'm not even trying to point out insult to cover my tracks you proving it with each post ur doing. Instead of coming in here skiming my posts, stoning me for my experiences see for urself. You are helping those players. I'm not getting help. I have tried these suggestions... they didn't work. But my suggestion still stands.

simply put... get over urself.. ur doing nothing but attacking a poster for their suggestion. Nothing more....

(missed this point in this post earlier, but you assumed I was directly helping the new players, which was not the case...people ask where to go, we tell them. On some occasions, someone has teamed up and they made parties, but there is a lot of solo work going on...we try to encourage people to try things for themselves first to prevent full dependency on others)

[Rosina]

ok raist I'm not gonna read every bit of text in ur post because you over complicate ur replies.
here is something I suggest.

1) do not skim posts
2) if you have a question or unsure of what is written ask befor commenting.

What this actually boils down to as you simply do not "get it" and you go out of ur way to try and discredit something that you are not grasping.

I can only assume you physically never leveled in windurst. So you do not have any say on what I am personally going through. A new player, nor a vet who is returning, shouldn't go out of their way just to level up in the lower levels. Traveling does take too much time out of what your trying to do. I fully explained why the current "options" are not all that fun or easy to really safely level up in. You just haven't experienced it.

What you assume you see, may not be what is actually going on. You cannot sit there and tell me with out having experienced it for yourself what "options" are viable. I have tried most, and come ~>

[Slaxx]

ok raist I'm not gonna read every bit of text in ur post because you over complicate ur replies.
here is something I suggest.

1) do not skim posts
~>

No context to take this out of. You straight up tell someone that you don't read the detailed and thought out replies they give and then proceed to tell them not to skim posts.

If you expect someone to read your rambling and barely comperehensible walls of text (to give credit they have gotten better in the last few posts I've read) at least have the decency to accord them the same respect.

[Rosina]

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to find that compared to before, leveling is that much more tedious SINCE the change. And zones have became unbalanced and redundent. High levels ALSO have options WAY MORE then lower levels. They do not NEED more. Plus they are getting the zones in the new exspansion.

This topic is something you need to actually experience to really comment on. You can't really say "oh you can just go do this, this, or this" with out having to physically done it.

If you wanna prove me wrong walk a mile in my shoes, if that isn't something you wish to do. Please stop posting, because it does feel you are attacking (not personally) but you feel you must/ have to be right.

Did you think that you may be wrong because you lack that experience?

[Komori]

He did mention that he took a subjob and leveled it through the area to see what you meant. I think there's skimming over areas coming from you too. Maybe SE should work on the monster placement again; but I for one love the new Zeruhn Mines and areas like the basement of Garliage Citadel. I regularly go there by myself or with friends to either skill; get a few merits without dealing with others or try for the skill up ring (in Zeruhn).

[Rosina]

He did mention that he took a subjob and leveled it through the area to see what you meant. I think there's skimming over areas coming from you too. Maybe SE should work on the monster placement again; but I for one love the new Zeruhn Mines and areas like the basement of Garliage Citadel. I regularly go there by myself or with friends to either skill; get a few merits without dealing with others or try for the skill up ring (in Zeruhn).

I am not saying the mines though.... Just windurst areas. And the ciditel mobs didn't get that much of a noticeble change since the lower part was already higher anyway. I'm talking mobs that was once mid level are now high level.

As for he tried, he took a lvl 59 whm and went there to see the quest area. He never leveled a character from the ground up, and said he couldn't.

i never skimed his posts, and only didn't want to read his recent cuz it was the same bs as he keeps writing. He is only spreading what he assumes he is seeing.