Windurst region fix.

[Rosina]

I think the "I need a viable place to level" complaint is a lot less important than the one to be made about new player retention when they wander into level 80+ mobs in a starter zone. That sort of thing tends to put people off, and with a game this old you need to hold onto all the new blood that bothers to even check the game out.

it was hat i could fit in a signle post.. or I would have rewritten that part. But i get told off for "double" posting.... well i get told off for even typing anything on here. ~.~

Honestly you guys really fail to see how hurtful you guys are in reality. If i had the tools my typing would be tons better. I don't. And i get hate for that, that is pretty effed up. And thats what I've been trying to get across.

[cidbahamut]

it was hat i could fit in a signle post.. or I would have rewritten that part. But i get told off for "double" posting.... well i get told off for even typing anything on here. ~.~

Honestly you guys really fail to see how hurtful you guys are in reality. If i had the tools my typing would be tons better. I don't. And i get hate for that, that is pretty effed up. And thats what I've been trying to get across.

What in the world are you talking about and why did you quote me?

[Rosina]

What in the world are you talking about and why did you quote me?

umm I was replying to you. >.>;; I simplely was trying to fix my errors with a retype and would have added the part you said was better. So both would be present.

[cidbahamut]

umm I was replying to you. >.>;; I simplely was trying to fix my errors with a retype and would have added the part you said was better. So both would be present.

You could have fooled me. It didn't seem related at all, but that may have been because it was almost completely incomprehensible. Heck, I can barely figure out what you're trying to say in the post I'm quoting.

[Infidi]

it was hat i could fit in a signle post.. or I would have rewritten that part. But i get told off for "double" posting.... well i get told off for even typing anything on here. ~.~

Honestly you guys really fail to see how hurtful you guys are in reality. If i had the tools my typing would be tons better. I don't. And i get hate for that, that is pretty effed up. And thats what I've been trying to get across.

Just curious do you type with keyboard or the controller? ^^ Not bashing or anything just wanting to know, 'cause some people don't know you can use a USB keyboard on the PS3 to type with. Might make easier to type with. ^^

[Spiritreaver]

Just curious do you type with keyboard or the controller? ^^ Not bashing or anything just wanting to know, 'cause some people don't know you can use a USB keyboard on the PS3 to type with. Might make easier to type with. ^^

Playing FFXI has always required a keyboard on PS2 and later PS3. I don't get the point being made there either.

[Rosina]

Just curious do you type with keyboard or the controller? ^^ Not bashing or anything just wanting to know, 'cause some people don't know you can use a USB keyboard on the PS3 to type with. Might make easier to type with. ^^

usb keyboard but the way the ps3 runs inorder to type, a window pop up with a text space and keypad. This window comes up even if you use a usb keyboard. I can't type directly on the site.

[RAIST]

I think the "I need a viable place to level" complaint is a lot less important than the one to be made about new player retention when they wander into level 80+ mobs in a starter zone. That sort of thing tends to put people off, and with a game this old you need to hold onto all the new blood that bothers to even check the game out.

True, but you also need to keep in mind that these higher mobs are deeper into these zones. Particularly in the zones in question here, you would not hit these mobs until you were done with level 14-18 mobs (some possible lower/higher in other zones). You don't just zone in and have a level 89 Scorpion biting your head off--you have to work your way past several camps representing the more normal level monsters that have always been in those zones first.

Also, at some point, you would be breaking off to do subjob quest--which means breaking off towards Mauhra or Dunes, then eventually Jueno for Chocobo, Rank, Khazaam, Airship, etc. The game has always been setup with that natural progression to hit harder level mobs as you go into zones further away from the starter nations, working your way towards Jueno....and yes, it is just that, a natural progression of sorts. Because of this pattern, this became the "norm" for people to follow: level up to around 10 closer to home, upgrade gears, and venture out into the world.

In other words, there are established paths that players have always taken. If they were to follow those paths, they may likely never go past that cracked wall or hop up the geyser to the upper level of Dangruf and continue up into the 80+ mobs there unless they were wandering around aimlessly out of curiousity (which is always dangerous), or doing a quest/mission that requires them to go there (in which case, they would have received advance notice of the threat had they researched things, and should have come prepared)--otherwise they should only be going there intending to fight those higher level mobs. It's all out there for anyone to review, and if they have no means to view that info there are plenty of people in game that could give them a heads up if they asked in LS or something (unless, there is somehow an LS full of people with no knowledge of the game or sites with the information).

Thus, the people who are running into issues with these mobs are more likely to be ones that either are unaware of what they are getting into because they didn't read up on anything and are just exploring without a clue (and if they don't learn the first time they make that mistake....well, that becomes more a personal problem), or are fully aware of the threat but are still choosing to go there anyway without taking proper precautions, even though a safer, reasonable path has been laid out before them (again, this is more a personal problem---a problem of personal choice).

[cidbahamut]

That is quite a lot of text for what amounts to "/handwave".

At the end of the day there is a very simple reality:
New players are going to encounter these mobs, have absolutely no chance at all and that's going to discourage people from continuing to play.

[RAIST]

That is quite a lot of text for what amounts to "/handwave".

At the end of the day there is a very simple reality:
New players are going to encounter these mobs, have absolutely no chance at all and that's going to discourage people from continuing to play.

The same could be said for a low level running into Ranguemont Pass in 2008 and trying to run to the glacier without a clue for the first time. So, did that mean they needed to adjust that entire zone for level 15 players?

How about a level 21 player that just completed their Chocobo Quest and wanted to check out the Necro and died right away? Did that mean they needed to drop that zone to level 20?

And before you declare irrelevance....think about why one would go there for the first time in the past. It would be for accomplishng specific goals...ones that would be researched, you would make sure you are prepared properly for them.

And if you found you weren't properly prepared, one would investigate as to why and <hopefully> learn from their mistakes.