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    Player Coldbrand's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    So you only ever talk to people on your FL by opening it every time?
    Can you point to the part of my post where I said that? You only know who's online that you recently spoke to generally in my experiences.

    Either way, nothing you've said in this thread's debunked the usefulness of phoenix downs. I really don't feel the need to further argue since an item that allows non casters to raise people will always be useful, regardless of the presence of reraise in any form. Phoenix downs should be in final fantasy games, period.


    Quote Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin View Post
    I wonder if i can be more condescending and arrogant than coldbrand

    "People still die!!1!.. what losers >:U"


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    What are you talking about exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    Can you point to the part of my post where I said that? You only know who's online that you recently spoke to generally in my experiences.

    Either way, nothing you've said in this thread's debunked the usefulness of phoenix downs. I really don't feel the need to further argue since an item that allows non casters to raise people will always be useful, regardless of the presence of reraise in any form. Phoenix downs should be in final fantasy games, period.




    What are you talking about exactly?
    only noobs die.. therefore phoenix down isn't useful >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin View Post
    only noobs die.. therefore phoenix down isn't useful >_>
    I never said that at any point. My arguments have been:
    .)Phoenix Downs are an integral staple of the FF series that should be present in each and every FF game.
    .)Phoenix Downs reduce the constant urgency to always have a healer nearby, which I think is a positive.
    .)Phoenix Downs are useful regardless of the existence of the various forms of reraise, which I don't think is debatable, since everyone dies and often more than once, including the people who can bring others up from death, using phoenix downs on those people is the next logical step in every other FF game, which was the point of the FFT comparsion.

    I've never made any mention of anyone's skill levels, so I don't understand your behaving so sensitively. As it stands, neither of you two have really debunked my arguments, because they're basically factually true(with the exception that I think phoenix downs should be in each FF game, which is an opinion). Having more options is good, as it turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    I never said that at any point. My arguments have been:
    .)Phoenix Downs are an integral staple of the FF series that should be present in each and every FF game.
    .)Phoenix Downs reduce the constant urgency to always have a healer nearby, which I think is a positive.
    .)Phoenix Downs are useful regardless of the existence of the various forms of reraise, which I don't think is debatable, since everyone dies and often more than once, including the people who can bring others up from death, using phoenix downs on those people is the next logical step in every other FF game, which was the point of the FFT comparsion.

    I've never made any mention of anyone's skill levels, so I don't understand your behaving so sensitively. As it stands, neither of you two have really debunked my arguments, because they're basically factually true(with the exception that I think phoenix downs should be in each FF game, which is an opinion). Having more options is good, as it turns out.
    Everything you just wrote was written in an opinion format not counting the part about phoenix downs being a staple of the final fantasy series yet, in the very same post you affirm them as factually true? (Something is backwards here as you claim the things you wrote in opinion format as facts and you consider the fact in that list to be your opinion [sort of])

    Point 2) "which i think is a positive" It's not. If you have no form of healing around you, then you aren't playing any final fantasy game properly.

    Point 3) People die, that's supposed to happen. Unless you feel that we should all have stacks of 99 phoenix downs, which would require phoenix downs to be extremely cheap. In which case, fuck mages, let's just zerg everything. Sounds challenging :/
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    Last edited by Zyeriis; 03-20-2011 at 05:19 PM.

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    I think what we are really forgetting to talk about here is the re-phoenix down

    for when you forget reraise and your buddy forgets a phoenix down...

    you can use the re-phoenix down
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