Where is my Phoenix Down?!

[Vangoh]

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Suggestion: Phoenix Down (Key Item)

Obtained: 2.5k - 15k Gil via Signet NPC in respective main city ONLY
(however "certain" Altana based NPC's like the ones in san d'oria could instead issue this,
where-ever located & claim the proceeds would go to their church or home nation perhaps?).

Effect: After a certain amount of time (no sooner than 5 min but no longer than 30min) an
option to use this key item will display the option to have raise cast upon you from the
heavens (something like "The light of Altana shines upon you" would display once yes is
chosen and then a raise prompt would follow like normal.

Side Effects: Double Weakness & unable to cast reraise upon oneself for the same amount of
time the key item was set to (to avoid SE rejecting the idea on grounds of potential "abuse" or
some type of complaint that it'd offset something).

Notes: If said person invokes the use of the item but does not actually raise him/herself the
key item would revert to be used again later (to avoid people complaining about losses for
whatever reason). Also the key item could only be bought no more than 1-3x per real life day?
(to support SE not rejecting this idea further and also lastly the concept of 3x per real life day
might be enhance-able via quests? instead of the 1x per real life day).

PS: You can find this on my main thread here.

I like the idea of it being a key item, just not sure about liking the side effects. It already sounds like is a limited item. Oh and does this theory supports the idea of using it on others? Just didn't saw it included...

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I like the idea of it being a key item, just not sure about liking the side effects. It already sounds like is a limited item. Oh and does this theory supports the idea of using it on others? Just didn't saw it included...

But if it's a key item, where dose it end? If it's permanant, what would be the point to the scrolls? If it's consumable, then what's the point of not useing the scroll?

[lowkey]

Or you simply don't have reraise with you...not everyone carries that stuff. Just makes sense to me to have a raise item that can be used on others.

1. Who's fault is that? If you don't carry rr items (or get it from field parchment), you run the risk of having to home point.

2. Are you saying that you can't be bothered to carry a rr hairpin with you, but wouldn't hesitate to lug around phoenix downs? Oh it's for your irresponsible friend you say? Well you can also loan him your rr hairpin too.

[Vangoh]

But if it's a key item, where dose it end? If it's permanant, what would be the point to the scrolls? If it's consumable, then what's the point of not useing the scroll?

Hey no one uses ballista/brenner anymore, SE just creates stuff and sometimes they just leave them to die.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Hey no one uses ballista/brenner anymore, SE just creates stuff and sometimes they just leave them to die.

I never did those to begin with. lol

[Chronofantasy]

If everyone can simply buy/obtain a raise item then the mages would be out of a job. I think RR should be enough, but maybe one day SE will give us a phoenix down or some form of that to use on a pty member if both are on a DD-type job. I think generally duo'ers will often be DD/mage and that mage usually has raise.

Speaking of soloing raising though, I think if you die with your fellowship NPC out and you don't have any form of RR up then your fellow NPC should give you some sort of raise before they disappear from your side.

[Alderin]

Why so many flames?

They could work as a consumable. I don't see them working as a KI. In fact there already is a KI that gives a raise effect. It's called Atma of the Apocalypse.

However yes I agree, Phoenix Downs could work, and I would more then likely carry a stack on me.

I don't carry a hairpin on me because when I am in some form of risk of dying I carry a WHM along with me. However I do carry a RR scroll which obviously only has one use - then you are stuck on the field without RR for a 2nd time.

Why not make a raising item?

[Vangoh]

Why so many flames?

I dunno man they hating way too much, is not like it's gonna hurt anyone. Oh the whms? pshhh don't be jealous lol no one's gonna take your precious.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Plus, pheonix down is not a RR item, it's a raise item. You'd only be able to use it on dead people.

[Vangoh]

Plus, pheonix down is not a RR item, it's a raise item. You'd only be able to use it on dead people.

YEAH! That's the point!!!! An item to raise OTHER dead ppl without the need of casting or the need of a mage, NO ONE said anything about RR lol. As a matter of fact RR shouldn't even be mentioned here, "well ppl should be carrying RR with them at all times" well stuff happens and not everyone will follow this rule plus is just a natural FF item. Very coop too if you ask me.