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    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    Phoenix downs are a staple of the FF series. Fact.
    Having phoenix downs would reduce the need for healers (specifically people who can cast raise.) Fact.
    Phoenix downs would be useful even in the presence of reraise. Fact.

    http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

    If you were reading all my posts I presented the idea of rare/ex phoenix downs in my first post. Never have I mentioned 99 stacks. Oops.
    Some one has reading issues :/ "Unless you want stacks of 99 phoenix downs" =/= you said you wanted that.

    "Phoenix Downs reduce the constant urgency to always have a healer nearby, which I think is a positive." Opinion.
    "Phoenix Downs are useful regardless of the existence of the various forms of reraise, which I don't think is debatable," Opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    Some one has reading issues :/ "Unless you want stacks of 99 phoenix downs" =/= you said you wanted that.

    "Phoenix Downs reduce the constant urgency to always have a healer nearby, which I think is a positive." Opinion.
    "Phoenix Downs are useful regardless of the existence of the various forms of reraise, which I don't think is debatable," Opinion.
    It's not a matter of opinion that they're useful regardless of reraise. It can be proven easily. Here:

    I'm an adventurer, I cast reraise and fight a hard fight with a group. I die, reraise item is used up. I die again, but the WHM is also dead, phoenix down brings me back up.

    Phoenix Down was useful in that situation functioning as it would in any other game in the series. The only way it wouldn't be a fact is if it was implemented in a way that bared no resemblance to the rest of the franchise, which the vast majority of the items in the game don't do. Potions are still potions, ethers are still ethers, etc.

    My statement that I think it's positive that the monopoly on party presence that healers have being lessened is a positive is an opinion yes, however no matter how small the reduction in their necessity may be, any change is in fact a change and therefore the first part of that sentence is a fact.
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    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    It's not a matter of opinion that they're useful regardless of reraise. It can be proven easily. Here:

    I'm an adventurer, I cast reraise and fight a hard fight with a group. I die, reraise item is used up. I die again, but the WHM is also dead, phoenix down brings me back up.

    Phoenix Down was useful in that situation functioning as it would in any other game in the series. The only way it wouldn't be a fact is if it was implemented in a way that bared no resemblance to the rest of the franchise, which the vast majority of the items in the game don't do. Potions are still potions, ethers are still ethers, etc.

    My statement that I think it's positive that the monopoly on party presence that healers have being lessened is a positive is an opinion yes, however no matter how small the reduction in their necessity may be, any change is in fact a change and therefore the first part of that sentence is a fact.
    How many chances do you need? Dying has to mean something, that's why it's called dying.

    That's what Reraise is, your second chance. You have to fail at some point, that's called experience.
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